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Mega MA-TEN with Noveske N6 20" barrel in 6.5 Creedmoor. Geissele DMR trigger, JP/VTAC LR308 rifle length handguard, heavy AR10 carbine buffer, Tubbs flat wire extended action spring. It's a great shooter and recoil is very mild.
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Does this count?
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Heres my bullseye killer...:laugh:
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What's your preferred bipod?
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rock river varmint, stock except for the stock.
nikon buckmaster 6-18x scope in an armalite mount
5 shots, 69gr black hills gold, 100 yards -
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Dam some nice rifles on here..Dont have a pic of my SPR build on this computer, but heres my M1a..with 168 grn BTHP she will shoot about 1.25 to 1.5 moa if I do my part....
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Here's mine. She started life as a stock grade M1A with all USGI parts but I upgraded parts with a lot of NM parts and the stock is one of the USMC DMR project over-runs (which explains the selector lever cut out) bedded with Devcon rather than the traditional glass bedding eliminating the bedding breakdown problems associated with glass bedding. Using my reloads, it will do 1/2" MOA groups on a good day and 3/4" groups when I am rushing things a bit. I used it back home in ND for deer hunting and to date, my longest shot on a critter has been 682 yards according to my Lecia 1200. No, it's heavy but it shoots pretty well.
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My newest favorite rifle. Also caused me to buy steel targets and put them at 500yds, I'm hooked.
Base rifle:
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Noveske VIS SPR upper Noveske 2nd lower, A1 Cav Arms stock, Geissele SSA, PWS 556, Blue Force Gear sling, Nightforce 2.5x 10 x32 Compact in Brobro Precision Optic mount, Ergo Grip, Norgan Ambicatch, Ambi Safety, MagPul trigger guard, MBUS and Knight handstop.
In action for a up coming article:
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Shooting 100 yard steel of hand.
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Where's yours dude? Or are you in the same boat I am?
I'm in the planning stages with mine, I would like to ask those that just posted pics only (yeah, I know it's a pic thread) to include a parts list (to include the scope model) to help those of us who are now just planning to select parts.
Thanks in advance.
ETA: I keep my parts list for my carbine on a word document so I can copy and paste it when I need to, so I don't have to type it again every time I want to post it.
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Bravo Company MK12
Bravo Company Manufacturing in house upper - BCM Mk 12 Mod 3X-Bravo (DD14)
BCM 18” SS410 Ion Bond DLC Stainless Steel 1 in 8” twist barrel 5.56 USMC SAM-R chamber A2 Flash Hider Rifle Length gas system with H3 buffer
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 14.0 Lite rail
Leupold MK4 4.5-14x50mm Tactical Milling Reticle
LaRue SPR-1.5 QD mount
BCM/Troy back up iron sights
Harris Ultra Light Bipod
Bravo Company Manufacturing lower receiver
LMT 2 stage match trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MOE grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
KNS anti rotation pins
Vickers Combat Applications padded two point sling
This take on the SPR is excellent, the Bravo Company upper is extremely well made and the BCM SS410 Ion Bond barrel is a true sub MOA tack driver, I recently shot two back to back groups at 200 yards that measured less than an inch. It might have a Leupold MK4 3.5-10x40mm in the near future.
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Daniel Defense Recce
Daniel Defense in house upper - DD SPR Mid Length Complete Upper Receiver Group
Lothar Walther 16” LW50 Stainless Steel 1 in 7” twist barrel 5.56 Wylde chamber A2 Flash Hider Mid Length gas system with H2 buffer
Daniel Defense hand matched bolt and bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Charging Handle Mod 4
Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite rail
Leupold MK4 1.5-5x20mm Special Purpose Reticle 3rd Gen Illumination 62 & 77gr BDC turrets
LaRue SPR-1.5 QD mount
Troy back up iron sights
Daniel Defense lower receiver
LMT 2 stage match trigger
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul MIAD grip
Magpul MOE trigger guard
Magpul XTM rail panels
Magpul BAD lever
KNS anti rotation pins
Vickers Combat Applications padded two point sling
Probably the most versatile AR I own, my modern take on the SEAL Recce rifle is capable of red dot optic speed at close range yet will make good hits out past 600 yards. Doubles as my 3 Gun rifle. The LW50 barrel is sub MOA capable. The SEALs knew what they were doing with the 16" Recce.
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Bravo Company SPR
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Daniel Defense Recce
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Bravo Company SPR & Daniel Defense Recce
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Cameron, you've got some stunning rifles man. Love all 4 of them.
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RRA 20" Varmint
US Optics SN3 3.2-17X44
Magpul PRS
Magpul MIAD
The AR 223
Bushmaster upper/lower
Noveske 16" barrel
Young bolt carrier group
JP trigger group
KNS pins
JP 12.5" VTac handguard
Magpul cts stock, Miad grip and trigger guard
Magpul BUS
Eotech XPS 2-2
AAC SPR-M4 mount and can
custom stainless buffer
custom tuned POI and gass deflector collar
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AR 762
Ma-Ten upper/lower
Noveske 18" 762 barrel
SWS E1 15" handguard
Jewell trigger group
Magpul UBR stock
Magpul Miad pistol grip
Armalite bolt carrier group
Phase 5 Tactical EBR Extended Bolt Release
AAC muzzle brake
Tubs flat recoil spring
Stainless 6 oz custom buffer
stainless custom extended adjustable gas block
custom tuned POI and gass deflector collar
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Wow, that is a good looking setup. I, however, have nearly no clue what it is!
What type of handguard is this?
What type of gas block system is this rifle sporting?
And what is up with the collar on the barrel right behind the brake?
Very interesting indeed, particularly the gas block/switch block setup.
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Two EMC's and an EMR:
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What kind of groups do you get with that Precision Semi-auto rig Edmond?
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I'm a sucker for long barreled KAC .308's...that said the 20" EMR is looking mighty redundant right about now in the face of the 16" EMC. Kinda like a SDMR vs. Recce.
I would be shooting your badass EMC prone...soon or later somebody is gonna dedicate their EMC to pursuing a true precision based .308 recce. This would include running a SD-E/DMR, in your case a SB pmII 3-12x..my case a nxs 2.5-10x, UBR and I would include a secondary T-1. The barrel is capable of pumping out the accuracy needed, everybody just wants to run it like a carbine so far though.
When I can finally grab the MWS w. 20" Rock SS .260rem after shot show, I would eventually like to grab the 16" Rock SS .308 and do exactly what I listed above.
His EMC has a Leupold with Horus reticle, and offset T1. His EMR has the 4-16 SB PMII with Horus. Mine has the Short-Dot.
That said if I was going to go a precision 308 I would get a LaRue since it has the built in 20MOA rail. One thing we have figured out is its extremely hard to get the full elevation adjustment out of scopes without having at least 30MOA of cant between the scope and gun. His 4-16 bottoms out about half way, and on my Mk12 build I get 13 mils out of 22 since we are both running 0 cant bases and rails. No one makes a QD cantilever mount in with enough MOA in them. Granted 13 mils gets me out to beyond 1k yards in 556 but if I were running a Grendel, 260 or 308 it would barely be enough at 1k. LaRue makes the 10MOA SPR 1.5 type mount but thats only an additional 2.9 mils.
KAC makes this (http://www.operationparts.com/Kac_Kn...mm_p/25284.htm) with 19MOA built in but its not QD, and doesn't offer as much forward cant to put the scope further forward as other mounts.
The other option Im looking at getting the is Sphur mount: http://www.spuhr.com/
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...Number=1981607
A 20MOA mount would give almost 6 more mils in down elevation, and is pretty kick ass. You can attack a rail to the side for a offset T1, laser, ect. Do a google image search....
Oh and regards to the EMC Vs. EMR I think an EMC would be a better choice if you were going to get ONE of them. With that AE M1A ammo I made 20/20 hits at 500 on a 12" plate, and with XM80 was around 50% on a LaRue at 750. 16" 308 can be stretched to 1k but if I was looking for a 1k yard gun it would not be a 308. At the range Ive seen lots of people with various calibers being way more effective at 1k than anyone with a 308 would be regardless of skill. It just has too much wind drift and drop. Where I shoot its almost always windy from 10-25MPH so I can see the effects of wind.
So that kinda leaves the 20" SA swingin in the breeze. For pure precision shooting you can get a 16 or 18" LaRue, and be more accurate than an EMC but with the 20MOA built in it requires a cheek riser of some sort.
Obviously a intermediate 6.5 round would offer a SA in a better LR round than 308. I was actually toying around with building a SR25 based upper in 6.5x47 but it seems people either think Im dumb to do it or dont want to respond back to potential customers. Id just have a bolt gun made how I want but for that Im going to have to save, and just get an AI AW, shoot the 308 barrel out, and then rebarrel it. I think Ive spent my gun budget in advance for the next 2 years already though so I dont see me doing that anytime soon...
That is great info on the LR applications of the EMC/EMR. The problem w. the Larue that has the 20 moa built in is that while it is indeed very much appropriate for those 1000yd distances, its extremely cumbersome and is really ill suited for any application except very LR applications. Like you said, it makes finding a proper buttstock a PITA and I never had a precision gun worth a damn that did not have a great stock that afforded me the proper cheek weld.
Its easy to get caught up in trying to find or build the most extreme precision rig but I always have to step back and remind myself that once you give up the EMC or MWS type gun and go searching for some boutique one application rifle like the Larue for extensive LR purposes you basically give up what makes the AR so special...its modularity, mission specific adaptability, and overall freedom within the platform to achieve numerous applications very effectively.
If I am gonna spend the big cheese on a .308 AR than it better bring significant advantages over a top shelf 5.56 AR. The only two that I believe will do that for me personally is the MWS and EMC.
As for your gun budget.....heck once you grabbed the EMC you basically got 2 years worth of exploring, refining, and eventually fully utilizing it's specific advantages. The EMC has vast potential for other configurations and while 9/10 folks see the biggest potential for it being a true .308 battle rifle or carbine given the softer recoil and lighter weight, I def. see it being much more of a versatile platform and adapted to fill much wider mission demands.
Ma/Ten .308 16"RA Ultramatch Barrel,Wilson ttu.
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14.5 Noveske 5.56 Afghan
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16" wilson/nordic reeshish
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