Is is possible to put a WML on a third generation Glock 23 without compromising reliability?
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Is is possible to put a WML on a third generation Glock 23 without compromising reliability?
Yes. Best practice...Quote:
Originally Posted by Disciple
install 11-coil springs in standard capacity G23 magazines
don't over-tighten the light on the frame
use standard velocity 180gr rounds
Never had any problems in about 20k with a 23.3. Never upgraded mag springs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ST911
Finger tight plus a quarter turn and done.
Understood. Best practice, not required practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ggammell
And that info was Glock's advice to users that were experiencing .40/WML combination issues.
Absolutely it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by ST911
Disciple, just be aware that some 40 cal Glocks that are reliable with weapon mounted lights develop into being unreliable with weapon mounted lights.
I have had good and bad experiences with multiple 40 cal Glocks and WMLs over the years. I don't want to go into it. But the information I mentioned above is something you should be aware of.
Joe Mamma
Are there lights to avoid, or ones that are known to work better?
Joe Mamma, I understand that you "don't want to go into it" but is there anything in particular I should watch for?
Any advice on using G22 and extended 22 round magazines in a G23?Quote:
Originally Posted by ST911
It seems like the Streamlight TLR lights have the most problems. However, that may simply be because there may be more of them being used than other brands/models, or their users are just more vocal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disciple
Just keep in mind that there are probably 2 issues with using WMLs in Glock 40 cal guns: additional weight, and increased frame stiffness in that area (due to how various lights attach). If I were picking a new light, I would consider both of these issues.
Just so we are on the same page, the general consensus with this problem is that the slide speed under recoil is too fast for the next round being pushed up in the magazine. So you can go with commercial rounds that have a relatively heavy bullet (like the 180 gr that ST911 mentioned above), which usually results in slower slide speed, or a stiffer magazine spring, or a stiffer recoil spring. However, these don't always solve it.
Other things to consider are ammo type (rough steel cases, brass cases, or slick nickel plated cases) and how dirty the insides of your magazines are. This can contribute to increased friction and slow down the feeding of the next fresh round when shooting.
I hope this is helpful.
Joe Mamma
Only the usual, verify function with chosen combination. If using a G22 magazine in a WML-equipped G23, I would put the 11 coil springs in the mags.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disciple
As ggammell notes, it may not be necessary.
The X300U-A is probably your best bet in regards to lights. I'd avoid the TLR series and X300U-B. I'd wager a large majority of the problems stem from mongoloids cranking them down too tight coupled with the characteristics of how .40 Cal glocks shoot.
I put an 11-coil spring in a G23 magazine and I cannot get the last (13th) round in. The original spring is 9-coil. Should I get a 10-coil spring?Quote:
Originally Posted by ST911
Doggone it, I screwed that up. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disciple
Standard spring in G23/13rd is 9-coil, up that to a 10 for WML.
Standard spring in G22/15rd is 10-coil, up that to a 11 for WML.
That 13th round may still be tight, and downloading by 1 may be beneficial for reloads with retention.
No problem. I have never carried compact magazines for reloads as full size magazines are just as easy. Is there any reason to download by one in this case?