https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obcGv9H8JEY
Isn't this getting spicy...
Stabbings and a shooting.
I feel sorry for the Guardsman.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obcGv9H8JEY
Isn't this getting spicy...
Stabbings and a shooting.
I feel sorry for the Guardsman.
We need more shooting invaders and less allowing them to close within melee weapons range.
At this point, if you've been paying attention, the violence is steadily increasing in major Cities and calls for "Death to America" in Dearborn Mich.
Add in a weak President and a Party who've become disenchanted with him and pay revolt at the Convention.
Pressures keep stacking as we go deep in to an emotional election cycle.
I predict chaos, burning and looting with very few actual arrests.
Its the Democratic way !
"Migrants".....they're fvcking ILLEGAL ALIEN TRASH.
You're welcome.
Criminal aliens.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABNAK
"Migrants" has now morphed into "Newcomers". It's been quite a word evolution since "illegal alien". Seems like just the other day "undocumented" was en vogue.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABNAK
What are the odds he knew he wouldn't be given ammo, so he brought it from home?
The biggest take away from this is that at least some Guardsmen are armed with loaded weapons. Honestly wasn't sure if that was the case or not. Hopefully they can get a looser ROE sooner rather than later.
Amen to that. If we shoot enough of 'em, maybe the rest will get the idea and stay home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coal Dragger
I hope the Guardsman doesn't catch some bogus Federal charges for disenfranchising one of their undocumented Democrats.
I'm sure they've alread ostracized him, they've read him his rights and he's most likely sitting in a Cell having an MRE for lunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by StainlessSteelRat
The Military loves to eat their own.
Oh he’s gonna catch charges. The JAG corps will see to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StainlessSteelRat
For starters he’s enlisted, so they can’t wait to throw him under the bus.
I'm actually pleased that he had live ammo. On TOS there is a guy who is NG and supposedly did border duty awhile back and he has posted pics of the loaded mags they carried.
One concerning thing with having loaded weapons is that bum-rush of the NG guys a few weeks back where the vermin swarmed all over them like the rats in "Willard". That could lead to a loaded weapon being taken from one of our folks and turned on them. Simple solution to that though: shoot the bastards! Don't tussle with them.
On more than one occasion guys have brought some ammo from home because they don't trust the system to have ammo when and where they need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABNAK
There's more than likely four AR magazines with five rounds each locked in a 7.62 can in the guard shack 300 yds away.
Yeah, you're good to go.
Edit to Add;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FToLETJe8vk
Fiesty Aint they?
We used to do that way back in the mid-80's after the Beirut barracks bombing. If the brass hadn't learned their lesson, we weren't on board with that. Rather face UCMJ than a coroner's slab!Quote:
Originally Posted by Averageman
Remember the movie "Southern Comfort" from back in the day? I know you do, you're an old bastage like me! That one NG guy who brought some of his own ammo with him.....:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Averageman
Hell, I could probably bring some better ammo than the military issues, even though M855A1 is a pretty decent round. Come to think of it, I have some of that too so could bring that and it would be hard to prove it wasn't .gov issued as no lot numbers are on the headstamp! ;)
And yes, I recall the 5rds of 5.56 loaded for guard duty, 3 if it was a 12 gauge. Don't dare chamber one either!
IIRC those gate guards were allowed a loaded magazine but couldn't have one in the chamber, correct? Or was it a loaded mag but not allowed to be in the weapon? 'Cause one of them got off a few shots but by the time the rifle was chambered the truck had passed his position and he couldn't fire into the cab. The whole thing was retarded because by that time the Beirut International Airport was a freaking combat zone.Quote:
Originally Posted by glocktogo
I wasn't there so I can't state it as fact. Similar to what ABNAK stated, most of the time for us it was 10 rounds, 5 in each of two mags and at least in my unit's case, the mags had to stay in the mag pouch. Ship security was 5 rounds of 00 Buck in the tube and don't you dare chamber a round. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by ABNAK
When I was in the Gulf was the only time we carried full combat load, with a full mag inserted and chamber empty unless a threat approached us.
Different scenario, but related I guess. When we were in Haiti, we had a full combat load, and carried a loaded mag in our M4s, but were forbidden from chambering a round. The only times we did were during some riots, or when we got shot at. Got yelled at both times for it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/te...9ec1e0421&ei=8
Texas officials are investigating a shooting at the U.S.-Mexico border near El Paso that involved a National Guard soldier assigned to Operation Lone Star, the Texas-led border security mission.
“Early on the afternoon of 14 April, a National Guard service member assigned to Operation Lone Star discharged a weapon in a border-related incident,” Texas Military Department officials told Army Times in an email statement. “The incident is under investigation. More information will be made available as the investigation progresses.”
I did security at JFK after 9/11, loaded mags but no round chambered. Base security at an Air Guard base a year later, same deal, and then again at a train yard in Long Island. However when my company was called up for the 2020 riots I instructed my men to have a round chambered, and we rolled with a full combat load for that. Personal firearms and ammo were brought but left at the armory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha-17
And the Judge let them go !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p8INBrdYwQ
I'm aghast !
Should've gotten beat to within an inch of their lives, then when the charges are dropped they will limp out of the courtroom, hopefully some in wheelchairs. Kind of a long-lasting and painful memento of their crimes.
The legal system won't enforce the laws, and will side with the obvious bad guys. People need to learn to ensure that those bad actors never get a chance to appear before a judge.
Well, it seems pretty obvious to me that they would rather lose a Soldier than a Wet-Back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha-17
I just cannot fathom how and why things have gotten turned completely upside-down in our country. Black is white, up is down, night is day, right is wrong, etc. It's incomprehensible.
The other part that leaves me shaking my head is that roughly half this country will VOTE for it again and again; while they may not personally agree with 100% of the upside-down Clown World it is espoused by someone with a "D" after their name so they blindly hit that lever. Then they bitch because it's a "package deal" and all that comes with hitting that "D" lever.
You can weakly make the argument that the same is true for those who vote "R", but show me one policy espoused by the Right that is insanity Clown World like the Democrats bring.
I just never cease to be amazed, in a disgusted sort of way.....
We were warned this would happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABNAK
Quote:
But understand this, that in the last days[a] hard times will come— 2 for people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 hardhearted, unforgiving, backbiting, without self-control, brutal, hating what is good, 4 treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 holding to an outward form of godliness but denying its power. Avoid these people!
2 Timothy 3:1-5
Still doesn't make it any more fun to live through.Quote:
Oy to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who present darkness as light
and light as darkness,
who present bitter as sweet,
and sweet as bitter!
21 Oy to those who are wise in their own eyes,
and clever in their own sight!
Isaiah 5:20-21