LMT MWS Optic Suggestions

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05-16-20, 15:15
tresmonos

LMT MWS Optic Suggestions

I have been reading up heavily on the NX8 2.5-20 vs the Mark 5 3.6-18x44. I have a 6.5 creedmoor (22") barrel and plan on a 13.5" .308 to compliment it.

Is that top end magnification not worth the eyebox trade off than say a ATACR 4-16x42?

Ugh. Its so hard to buy sight unseen. Anyone with any recommendations is greatly appreciated. Even if it's harsh. I know the 13.5" would benefit from more of a LVPO. Is it a fools errand to expect utilizing the 6.5 with the higher magnification?

I'm newish to long range shooting and just want to buy once / cry once. For reference: I have a Mark 4 2.5-8x36 on my mk12 clone and have had a lot of fun with that rifle and have found that glass to be satisfying.
05-16-20, 16:21
FromMyColdDeadHand

Any specific reasons or activities for the gun? A 22in 6.5 is a fundamentally different gun than a 13.5 308. I don't get an SBRish 308 when you can just shoot an AK, or a 300BO, but to each their own. With an 18inch 308 gun intended for longer range gas gun, I've used my 3-15 Premier. Proned out and bipoded. When I use my 16CL, I run my 1-8 CQBSS. Now I pretty much just juse my 1-8 and don't do precision shooting with the LMT.

To me, a 1-10 would be a really good rifle. I'd really want more scope on it for the 6.5 for full potential. 4-16/3-15 with a offset red dot?
05-17-20, 10:04
RHINOWSO

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Originally Posted by tresmonos

I have a 6.5 creedmoor (22") barrel and plan on a 13.5" .308 to compliment it.

I see those barrels as needing very different optics. 6.5CM/22" needing a precision oriented optic and the 308/13.5" with a LPVO in the 1-6/1-8x range.

I just see a 6.5 like that suffering with most / all LPVOs and the same with a 13.5" 308 suffering with a 4-16x optic. The new Razor 1-10x would likely be the best compromise but it's still a compromise.
05-17-20, 15:49
skatz11

I have a 16” 308 MWS and I’ve been trying to decide between the ATACR and MK5 for awhile now. I’ve flipped back and forth a few times. I’m leaning toward the MK5 to maximize weight savings.

I’m currently using A Bushnell DMR2 Pro on it right now. It’s a great scope, but a tad heavy for what I want long term. I bought it last year because it was a good deal and it never hurts to have an extra scope in the safe.

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05-18-20, 06:42
Sabre675

For your purpose, I vote MK5
05-18-20, 09:52
Furbyballer

So, I own the atacr 4-16 and the mark 5 3.8-18. How much do you care about weight and what will you be doing with it? If budget or weight is a concern, grab the mk5. If durability or mount availability is a concern grab the atacr. Their glass is comparable, their turrets are both decent, both offer the T3 reticle (which is what I would recommend for both of our caliber choices). 18x is more than enough for 6.5 and the 18x is right at home with the 13.5 308. If you were only rocking the 22in 6.5 barrel I would recommend stepping up to the 5-25 or 4-28 range with a mk5, atacr, or steiner. Another option that could work very well for you as well could be the new night force 2.5-20 NX8 in the T3 reticle.
05-20-20, 19:23
Parham4020

I don’t have experience with any of your specific setups so take this for what it is worth. I have an MWS with a 16 inch 308 barrel on it topped with a Vortex Razor HD II 3-18. I think it is over glassed. With the addition of a 6.5 barrel I think the optic would match the setup better but only time will tell.
05-22-20, 18:43
Pappabear

I have the 4-16 ATACR and absolutely love it. One of my favorites scopes. You could add an Offset RDS for your 308 if you want, or just run the ATACR on 4X, that would work fine IMHO.

PB
05-23-20, 18:00
tresmonos

I love this place. Y’all gave me a lot to think about. I’m leaning towards the Mil-XT reticle. I’ll be starting off honing the 6.5. I’m thinking the 13.5” .308 may be too extreme and might cop the 16.” Especially since LMT has them for $499 this weekend.

25x will give me more upside as the sweet spot will be around 15-18x or so whereas 16X sweet spot will be 12-14x.

I don’t see this being my go to weapon. I’ve trained with my Colt M4. So I’m leaning towards longer range. I guess I’m glad there are so many good options.

That MWS with the 22” barrel is one heavy chonker.
05-23-20, 18:03
tresmonos

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Originally Posted by Furbyballer

So,Another option that could work very well for you as well could be the new night force 2.5-20 NX8 in the T3 reticle.

I was almost dead set on the NX8 but feedback suggests the eye box is very tight.
05-24-20, 15:42
LMT/556

Quote:

Originally Posted by tresmonos

I was almost dead set on the NX8 but feedback suggests the eye box is very tight.

Very tight eye box on NX8. My 20" 6.5 sports a 4x16 ATACR. If you really want a LVPO 1x8 ATACR is what I have on my 16" 308 and love it.
06-04-20, 21:05
Snipe315

I have a Nightforce NX8 and it's a great little unit. I'd have no problems using it on my LMT MWS.

But... the Vortex Razor HD Gen III 1-10x is as close to the perfect LPVO currently in existence, and what I'll be picking up soon.
06-10-20, 14:16
tresmonos

I copped the Vortex 4-27 HD. I feel a little bit like a poor, but for the price, a NX8 was $400 more and I don't want a restrictive eyebox. If I don't like it, I'll be able to flip it for very little loss.
06-11-20, 04:14
nick84

That Vortex seems to be very popular with the benchrest precision shooters, IIRC. Depending on how you're planning to use the gun, it could very well suit your needs. The Razor line really delivers quality glass at their pricepoint.
06-11-20, 08:08
tresmonos

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick84

That Vortex seems to be very popular with the benchrest precision shooters, IIRC. Depending on how you're planning to use the gun, it could very well suit your needs. The Razor line really delivers quality glass at their pricepoint.

I heeded the advice in this thread and picked something that would be useful for the 22" 6.5 barrel. The 4X looks like it would be fine for a 13.5" or 16" .308 as well. I wanted something that wasn't insanely cost prohibitive but would allow me to have some fun at the 750 yd range I have access to.

After handling the glass, I am not disappointed. I just need the seekins cantilever mount to come in so I can use it this weekend.
06-20-20, 20:52
Pappabear

Quote:

Originally Posted by tresmonos

I copped the Vortex 4-27 HD. I feel a little bit like a poor, but for the price, a NX8 was $400 more and I don't want a restrictive eyebox. If I don't like it, I'll be able to flip it for very little loss.

That optic will suite you just fine. Good luck.

PB
06-28-20, 21:47
duece71

You can also look at the NF SHV line of scopes. Less cost with many of the same features on some of the more expensive NF scopes. However, the SHV can be some what heavy compared to the other NF scopes. Still, worth looking at.

https://www.nightforceoptics.com/riflescopes/shv
06-29-20, 13:10
Pappabear

Quote:

Originally Posted by duece71

You can also look at the NF SHV line of scopes. Less cost with many of the same features on some of the more expensive NF scopes. However, the SHV can be some what heavy compared to the other NF scopes. Still, worth looking at.

https://www.nightforceoptics.com/riflescopes/shv

SHV are heavier than NXS or ATACR?

PB
07-02-20, 16:50
duece71

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pappabear

SHV are heavier than NXS or ATACR?

PB

Upon further investigation, I stand corrected. The SHV line is lighter. Size comparable of course. I have the 4-14x50 F1 and it is a great scope. I just wish I had a tad more magnification. The Leupold Mk5 is quite a bit lighter than comparable NF scopes.

https://www.leupold.com/scopes/rifle...ctedSku=173298

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