Incognito Weapon and ammo transport

Interested in your ideas. Basically my go to is guitar and bass cases. Insides ripped out , and replaced with pick foam. Had a combo amp where I took the head and speaker out but left the panel and speaker face in , that would fit 4 30 cal ammo cans in. super solid carrying handle. Cases covered with band stickers and Obama/left leaning decals... Close family friend uses camping and sporting gear. coleman folding chair cases with a shoulder strap for his carbine is his main transport to the range with smaller lunch cooler for ammo and mags. Whats your ideas??

Well when I was living in Florida I bought a beat up ugly lime green golf bag that had a head cover at a second hand store for like $20. Had a pocket on the side for shoes, balls and accessories that you could fit a few mags in it would hold a few rifles in gun socks.

awesome idea, we have this young guy at work that just got his first AR and has the bug now. Getting a lot of range time and signing up for carbine classes. Plans on doing some builds. Huge golfer, lives in apartment and doesn't want neighbors to know what he has, perfect idea. Don't know why I didn't think of it. Hes running with the folding chair bag now like our other buddy, but your idea is perfect when he starts getting more. Thanks

One AR? Go to Goodwill and buy an old briefcase!

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Originally Posted by Arik

One AR? Go to Goodwill and buy an old briefcase!

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Cool idea for a SBR/Pistol , think that would work when broke down. I don't have either, but have a couple at the station that do , sure they will give it a try

I have one of these that PWS came out with a few years ago.

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AWESOMENESS!!!!

If its short enough a bat bag from goodwill works well.

I frequently use a bag designed for carrying a yoga mat to transport an SBS or broken-down AR. I lined the inside with a very thin layer of foam so it looks like a bag with a yoga mat inside.

The one time I was asked about it, I said I use it to dispel negative energy. :cool:

I have used bat bag, folding chair bag and garment bag tricks off and on for years. The golf bag case works to plus wheels. I got some "camping tent pole" bag a few years back marked for USF service that will hold a broken down AR it works good with civ backpack. A cheap gym bag works good for rifle and some other stuff... But don't hold up to load for long.

Are these ideas for theft-prevention?

Because if not, I don’t understand why anyone would want to camouflage their kit like this. What’s wrong with a rectangular padded rifle bag? Or a Rubbermaid bin full of tactical nylon gear? What am I missing? Do you all hail from commie states?

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Are these ideas for theft-prevention?

Because if not, I don’t understand why anyone would want to camouflage their kit like this. What’s wrong with a rectangular padded rifle bag? Or a Rubbermaid bin full of tactical nylon gear? What am I missing? Do you all hail from commie states?

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Sure thats some of it but depending on your housing situation it’s great for nosy neighbors and apartments/landlords etc that don’t like firearms.

To the OP if you actually play guitar or a sport etc that has cases that can fit your firearms and accessories that makes things easier.

I lucked out with playing tennis. The bag I was already using has padding and enough room for two ar15s, other gear and an actual racquet or two.


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Yes. Criminals know what rifle cases look like. They also know that if they see someone walking between the vehicle and house carrying one of these cases, then there will be guns in the house. Guns are valuable, so a home owner with guns likely also has other stuff that's worth stealing. I may trust my neighbors, but certainly not everybody that drives down the street.

My $15 Wilson tennis racket case works wonders.

Fits my whole rifle assembled with a 20 round mag inserted.

10.3 and 11.5 both fit in it, and easily removed.


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Yes. Criminals know what rifle cases look like. They also know that if they see someone walking between the vehicle and house carrying one of these cases, then there will be guns in the house. Guns are valuable, so a home owner with guns likely also has other stuff that's worth stealing. I may trust my neighbors, but certainly not everybody that drives down the street.

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Understood, but, guitars and amps are easily pawned. They are valuable too. Maybe not quite to the degree that firearms are, but still.

If crims casing the place while you walk to and from your vehicle is the concern, I’d hide everything inside a garbage bag full of cans. Just going to the bottle return at the grocery store.

Bookbag.

If a rifle muzzle sticks out, wrap some poster board around it...

Typical student/business stuff with presentation-look... and it doesnt look valuable.

Look at Uline https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail...rrugated-Boxes: I got a few of these. I've always felt that plain and simple cardboard boxes are about as covert and incognito as it gets. Walking to and from your home to car and vise versa holding a standard cardboard box with no labels or product advertisement wouldn't attract many would be thieves.

On the cheap I regularly use the older style baseball bat bags which you can get 18" or 20" gun in and a ton of ammo. For shorties I use either yoga mat cases or ukulele cases. Large style top opening soft tool bags that you can get at home depot are great for broken down ARs.

Had a photography instructor who at times needed to transport some nice Nikons and leave them in her car for a while.
Used an old “dirty diapers” pail that was marked as such, and left visible in back of her station wagon.
Never had a problem.

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I am a minority here, but if you really need to be covert then I favor a small PCC i.e. MP5K, mini uzi, BT TP9.

Which as pistols with a brace make perfect sense to me. Ammo is easier to carry due to smaller size. In a covert situation and in the USA, you are not going to be making shots farther than 75 meters.

I have run many a mission with such weapons and had little issues with them. Does a rifle hit harder, of course. Can you make a PCC get the job done for sure and easier to carry.

Any bag will do. I prefer not to use bags that look like they contain valuable sports equipment.

I also really prefer guns that take down or at least have a folding stock.

Hey, YONI, what do you think of the VZ-61 Skorpion? I have one, semi-auto only, and really enjoy it. It's very reliable and plenty accurate at 25 M, which is the furthest I've fired it. Those little 20 rd mags are light and it's easy to carry a bunch of them.

I wonder if the niche where the TP9, Mp5k, etc. Live is even smaller or non-existent now between short rifles and full size pistols with 20 + round magazines and electronic optics?

Obviously a good stock and / or full auto capability count for something, if available.

I have only messed about with the VZ-61 Skorpion, but it is a great little gun but not up to the level of MP5k, BT TP9.

I still think the very short barrel rifle V PCC, the PCC wins for covert use.

Carry a SBR commando sized weapon is still 26 inches long. Go down to the Sig Rattler, you get muzzle blast and 1800 fps give or take. The magazines are bigger harder to carry covert. I can put 2 mags for PCC in a front pants pocket and only 1 for rifle. If you are covert you might need more ammo if you get bounced.
I am very interested in the Leigh Defense 65grain +P 9mm round, it will also give us 1800 fps, no muzzle blast. I just want to go out and shoot live things with it .

Regarding pistols with RMR V TP9, MP5k. You can always shoot the shoulder fired weapon faster and more accurate.

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I frequently use a bag designed for carrying a yoga mat to transport an SBS or broken-down AR. I lined the inside with a very thin layer of foam so it looks like a bag with a yoga mat inside.

The one time I was asked about it, I said I use it to dispel negative energy. :cool:

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Lots of this. I used to put a side-folder AK with a 10 round mag into a yoga mat bag and call it a day. Additionally, tennis racket bags are really good (especially the large ones for multiple rackets and shoes), especially if you can pull off a polo and know the sport enough to be conversational, depending on your environment.

Knowing enough about a particular activity to respond to someone can very quickly shift their demeanor from apprehensive to completely positive, and keep whatever you've got in your bag out of sight/mind to an inquisitive person.

I remember talking down a guy who straight up asked me if I had a gun in the pelican case that I was carrying through an elevator in a residential building by telling him that I was headed out to the country with my telescope/camera gear, which was super fragile - hence the big Pelican case. I smiled, told him about the atmospheric conditions that I was expecting later that evening and how great the f-stop on the lens that I had was, and he quickly realized that I would probably talk his ear off about something entirely boring, and left the fact that I had a locked Pelican completely alone - there's definitely a human factor to this too.

If your friend is already into golf, that's a great place to start, but it depends on if/where he would be leaving the bag unattended.

On an entirely different note, the Leigh Defense 65gr +P in 9mm is a really cool round from what little I've shot of it; great recoil impulse too from the relatively few rounds that I've shot of them/what I've shot them out of (G19, P320, P365). I can only imagine what a few more inches of barrel would do for this round. If you're able to see the results in live tissue, I'd be interested in hearing about it too.

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While not as incognito as some of the things mentioned, Noveske’s Discreet Backpack is made for a broken down AR or an SBR with molle webbing on the inside. Works well.

Edit: An AR15 with a 16” barrel and the Law Tactical folding stock adapter will fit without being taken apart but it’s very, VERY tight fitting at the top.