Looks like Rob at Alchemy is/will be producing their version of a 2011.
Not much info available yet, but should be a well tuned, finely finished version. At it's price point it should be.
https://alchemy1911.com/quantico-hicap/
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Looks like Rob at Alchemy is/will be producing their version of a 2011.
Not much info available yet, but should be a well tuned, finely finished version. At it's price point it should be.
https://alchemy1911.com/quantico-hicap/
Oh my.....
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Yeah. "Stay out of the Barber Shop if you don't want a haircut".
The bead blast blue is [emoji1305]
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Does it use STI pattern 2011 mags? If so, meh.
For now. Apparently they’re working on something special though.
Very nice.
You’ve had considerable experience with the gen 2 STI Mags?Quote:
Originally Posted by sundance435
I have 20+ shot from two different pistols with zero mag related issues.
Rd count is 15K between mags over 1 1/2 yrs.
Granted this isn’t a large sample, but is my experience.
Assuredly the 1st gen mags sucked ass unless modified.
Please bring your personal, negative experience to the table.
That thing is so sexy!
My 2020 staccato has been 100% for about 1,500 rounds here as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
I was actually perusing Alchemy’s website last night and wishing they had a 2011...
This thing looks top notch!
No, the opposite of what you're implying. I have a Staccato P and I'm waiting on a Staccato C2. Unless they're bringing some whiz-bang new mag to the table, which is the only real weakness of the 2011 (Staccato Gen 2s or Gen 3s, depending on what you read, are an improvement, but not the end-all), then I don't know why you'd pay a premium.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
Got it and agree.
Don’t reinvent the wheel at considerable upcharge and questionable availability.
If anyone’s curios I pinged Alchemy to see if they’d do a prime with a rail, because reasons lol.
Bluing done right is just [emoji1786]
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BUT IT"S SOOOO PRETTY!!! Yea I know I love my Staccato also and it does everything well for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by sundance435
1.5" at 25yds is not very impressive...most custom shops of good reputation are guaranteeing 1.5" at 50yds. It also seems like they did a lot of marketing to justify less work. Just one man's initial impression.
Please name TWO Custom shops that have a 1.5" Guarantee at FIFTY yds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer27
A TWO inch Guarantee at 50 yds. is uncommon. The guy that can shoot 3" at 50 yds., offhand, "field conditions" is a rarity.
You gotta get lucky to have a shooter like my Stacatto. Mine did a 1 inch group with one flier, pull that one out and it as more like .5 inch group. I’ll post a pic when I get a minute. 5 rounds Wolf Tuna can steel cased 115 ball. 25yards.
Mark, shot the group from a rest. Right before he shot it, he said I heard this ammo is actually pretty accurate. Yep!
I’ve never heard of 1 inch group, gun from anybody anywhere.
PB
Chambers Customs is one. Les Baer can do that for an extra 295 USD charge if you like. I believe some of the Accuracy X guns are also good for ~1.7" at 50 yards, given that they couch it in X-ring terms. My friend has a "work" gun that shoots 1" at 50 yards, but he's also in the AMU, so they likely have some black magic and more resources than most folks. My assumption is that any of the smiths that are bullseye oriented could probably do it without too much issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
That being said, it seems like the 25 yard guarantee is more of an issue of logistics rather than gunsmithing, or so the claim goes:
Source: https://www.1911addicts.com/threads/...3#post-1817595Quote:
Well, I'm sure this debate came about because of my 25 yard accuracy guarantee versus Les' 50 yard guarantee. The reason mine are 25 is because that's the max distance I can conveniently ransom rest a gun. I actually do test the guns out of a rest and provide a target with ammo data and a signature. I can't tell you what the procedure is at Baer but I can tell you to use your imagination. Picture this. It's January, you build 100 guns that month with the accuracy guarantee, do you go outside and put those in the rest? Come on. When you make 3000 guns a year and 40 percent of those bear the guarantee, it's a lot of travel, time and effort to test them that way. Please don't come at me with your ATF numbers telling me he doesn't make 3000 guns a year. Foreign orders are not part of those statistics since manufactures pay no FET on exported guns. The market in Thailand accounts for 1000 plus guns per year.
Smaller makers like Accuracy X, who I have the utmost respect for, can pull this stuff off due to smaller volume. I'm considering dumping the accuracy guarantee all together to take myself out of this game.
As for the statement from Cundiff about a gun losing accuracy when it's been hard fit, that's just sheer bollocks. There's a difference between hard fit wrong and hard fit right...big difference.
P.S. When I say I can't tell you what the procedure at Baer is. It means I know exactly what the procedure is, but can't tell you because it would violate my non-disclosure agreement.
That's pretty close to violating a NDA, but I digress. To me, a 50 yard accuracy guarantee is nearly worthless, because it's only guaranteed for one loading, if it's true at all in the first place. You could argue that the gun will be inherently more accurate with it, but I've seen different ammo do weird things out of "accurate" guns. I agree though that 1.5" at 25 yards isn't saying much, unless it's across a few different loads. 1" @ 25 could be reasonably expected out of a $3000 gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defaultmp3
Personally I’d like to see more big money guns shot out of Ransom rests but I digress.
From a marketing standpoint I agree with the previous that accuracy guarantees are meaningless for the most part given the variables but mechanical accuracy and accuracy potential I think you can absolutely put a dollar amount on.
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If you don't know what you're talking about, don't spout off to someone who does.
Both of my custom 1911/2011s came with 1.5" at 50yd guarantees and the proof targets to match. Those pistols came from two different custom shops. The X-ring on a B-6 target is 1.695"...that target is shot at 50yds. Recently an AMU competitor shot a 100-8x. You need a 1.5"/50yd to be competitive in certain disciplines.
The guy who can do XYZ is a rarity...so what? That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about pure mechanical accuracy, not justifications for mediocrity.
You can like Alchemy's pistol, but don't spew vitriol about something that's pure fact.
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Originally Posted by gaijin
This still didn’t answer his question though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer27
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Chambers CustomQuote:
Originally Posted by jpmuscle
Pilot Mountain Arms
Les Baer
Wilson Combat
The last two for specific builds.
I refrained from naming two makers because 1) there's no need to play favorites 2) the answer had been delivered previously in the thread.
That is certainly the cleanest looking 2011 I've ever seen.
How does alchemy compare to Wilson Combat in terms of reliability?
I guess I am asking in terms of standard 1911s and would assume that the comparison would still hold for 2011s.
Good copy. I wasn’t aware those entities and put out publicly a 50yd guarantee. Or I missed it maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer27
Better than I can shoot so it’s a wash [emoji23]
ETA: also I believe the PMA promise is 3” at 50, but splitting hairs.
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