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A friend of mine has a nice 336 JM marked but chambered in 35 remington was looking to buy from him, I heard it's a nice cartridge but looks like it's non existent. I know ammo is pretty scarce right now but, I still see more popular ammo on line. Is this particular ammo discontinued? Or just hard to find because of the ammo shortage?
Like many older rounds the .35 Remington is produced by the manufacturers in batches. They run a batch, then tear down and service the equipment and set it back up for another caliber, run that...repeat....Quote:
Originally Posted by Phillygunguy
So, yes, availability can be spotty. But, that's not really much of an issue for most thinking people.....I own many .35 Remington rifles and even a TC handgun. Never had an issue with ammo being unavailable. I buy it and put it on the shelf when it's available. It's a HUNTING round, most people aren't using it at a 1,000 count carbine class. 200 rounds would last 10 years or more....Plus, I reload, it's a very handloader friendly caliber....
As Esq said, they run batches of it, just pick some up from time to time, 80 or 100 rds will last a long time. I have a 1958 SC that was my Grandpa's favorite rifle. ..... it's got plenty of character marks from brush and boulders but it's smooth as butter and shoots like it always has. It'll belong to my oldest Grandson soon. I wouldn't take anything for it. Regards, Wayne
Just looked online, ammo is available to ship today from at least 3 vendors. Availability at LGS, can be hit and miss just like many of the more rare cartridges. They can almost always order some in for younthough. At least in normal times.
I've got an SC and a Model A. Excellent rifles from an era of high quality US manufacturing.Quote:
Originally Posted by StainlessSteelRat
Don't suppose you could pm me those online vendors?Quote:
Originally Posted by utahjeepr
Look on ammoseek, and I thought Natchez showed in stock also but now I don't see it. SGAMMO has a ton of 200g
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by utahjeepr
I've got several nice pre-safety JM Marlin's. One of them is in 35 Rem. Thanks for the lead on the ammo
It was and still is a fine round for hunting back east. A friend in Maine says it is still popular up there even for moose. Also a favorite of Frank Hamer in the Remington Model 8.
It may not be as popular as the 30-30, but the .35 Rem is not going away anytime soon.
Andy
My goodness, did you guys buy all that 35 Rem. (120 boxes) at SG?
I got a coupleQuote:
Originally Posted by utahjeepr
I got 5
Allow a HUGE fan of the 35 Remington to express a few thoughts.
6 years ago my boys expressed a strong desire to start deer hunting with me. FANTASTIC I thought. Now what rifles to buy. I have been reloading for 33 years over 22 for rifles. 90% of my deer hunting had been in shotgun only states and I ALWAYS hated paying $2-$3 a round for factory shotgun sabot ammo as I couldn't get the components to reload my own saboted shotgun ammo of equal performance.
Thankfully my home state began allowing bottle necked HP cartridges on both public and private ground all be it with certain restrictions most have been lifted for private land but not public. The best performing factory (non- wildcat) round I could find that would be legal for both public and private land was the 35 Remington a caliber that was essentially previously unknown to me.
My research showed it to be a VERY effective 200-225 yard deer round and as I already had on hand suitable powders and primers for it in large quantities all I needed was bullets brass and dies which I quickly acquired.
Now for rifles. The fully rifled shotgun of choice is IMO without doubt the Savage 220 which again IMO has no pier as dedicated fully rifled shotguns go and costs closer to $500 than $400 most places.
So my budget for 35 Remington chambered rifles was the same.
Luckily I found two mint LNIB JM stamped ( non- Remington made) Marlin 336c in 35 Remington for sale at GB from private parties and bought both. One was W/S&FFL $585 the other $565. I felt both were fair and acceptable prices.
When I got both I was quite frankly shocked at just how beautiful and elegant these two rifles were. I own VERY few wood stocked blued rifles and these JM stamped Marlins were by far the nicest looking rifles I own The walnut furniture was beautifully done and the checkering was excellent. The bluing was very very rich and very deeply colored. Was also very surprised at the triggers on both rifles. Equal to my Tikka's and M700's they aren't but very crisp and near zero OT and about 4.5lbs.To be frank I was a little concerned about turning over such beautiful examples of extreme firearm craftsmanship to a 11 and 13 year old, but hoped my years of firearm handling education and educate would keep the Marlins mostly damage free.
Then I set out reloading for both.
Used Speer 180 grain Hotcore bullets I purchased standard Fed and Win LG/RF primers and H335 and IMR3031 as that is what powders and primers I had on hand. Used Hornady brass as that was the only brass I could find for sale. So far its been great hope so as I bought a BUTT LOAD.
I used Redding FL sizing die with the mandrel removed and a LEE Collet die to size the necks and a LEE factory crimp die.
Considering these were lever action rifles I set my accuracy goals on the conservative side of anything at or below 2.25" MOA at 100 and I was going to be happy.
I must say no rifle I have ever owned or reloaded for more pleasantly shocked me than these two Marlin 336c's did and continue to do so.
Disclaimer these are my reloads and I recommend them to no one and advise all do their own load development. Thay are well over published max for the newest 35R reloading data but still under vintage out of production reloading data.
My reloads with both H335 and IMR3031 gave me consistent 100 yard accuracy from 1.5" to 1" for 5 shot groups with many at or slightly below 1moa, but honesty demands I judge them to be 1.3" 100 yard guns from the bench based on 10 5 shot groups.
I was using a vintage 1970's Speer reloading manual to base my reloading data on.
IMR3031 ended up giving the most velocity before I heeded caution on the amount of powder I was using. I did get best accuracy at 40.5 grains of IMR3031 and no indications or signs of excessive pressure what so ever, but backed my charge weights down to 38.5 as I still got excellent accuracy.
The load I am using gives a MV of 2330fps for a 10 shot average.
My boys have yet to kill a buck as they are letting the small ones walk but have each taken a doe every season thus far and a few coyotes and not a single deer or yote went more than 40 yards before dropping.
I shot one very large doe at 145 LRF confirmed yards and she was DRT.
If you can find a JM stamped 336c in 35 Remington at a reasonable price it will serve you very well as a 200-225 yard deer rifle.
One last thing I did acquire a third JM stamped 336c in 35 Remington as it was affordably priced and simply to beautiful for me to pass on and it is every bit the shooter it's safe mate's are.
Unfortunately for the 35 Remington very few rifles currently in production for the caliber, and any JM stamped 336c's or Remington 760's or 7600 still left for sale are commanding prices above what I paid especially a Remington 7600.
Still kicking myself for letting a vg condition 7600 in 35 Remington slip through my fingers to this vary day.
The 35 Remington is IMO far from obsolescence. Just buy in bulk when factory ammo (especially Remington Core Lockt ammo is available) or invest in a FL, seater. Lee Collet and factory crimp die and some good 200grn RN bullets or my personal faves Speer 180 Hotcores.
As been said you arent shooting the 35R for anything else but hunting and sighting in for same.
As I reload and have a butt load of components and powder I reload 180 grain Hornady .357 XTP's for fun plinking loads for ringing steel and killing clay birds.
The 35 Remington with my light reloads using 180 XTP's are great inexpensive fun range loads. My boys actually prefer the 336c over my 9mm carbines
But with the current situation concerning reloading components they will have to be happy with shooting the 9mm carbines as my 9mm reloads are the same cost now as current 22lr prices and the cost of a 35Rem reload has gone up significantly. Thankfully I bought a butt load of 357 XTP's
A great round. Back in the 90’s my dad carried a Win. Mod. 94 in 30-30 and I had a Marlin 336 in 35 rem.
35 rem wasn’t as easy to find on the shelf as 30-30 but in the woods it was obvious it hit harder.
As mentioned above, it’s one of those calibers usually only made once a year so stock up when you find it, but it’s not going anywhere.
Buffalo Bore has 35 Rem available. It's really expensive ($76 a box) but it's 220 gr. at 2200 fps, and it's in stock. If you use it for hunting and only fire a few shots a year, that price might not be that bad. A few years ago when I was deer hunting, I made the mistake of taking a shot at a huge bore hog that was quartering towards me. Shot at his front shoulder with soft tip .223. Didn't phase him at all. I knew that wasn't a good shot to take but I got excited. I should have waited until he turned broadside or aimed behind the ear. From now on, I will be taking my 35 Rem Marlin JM loaded with this Buffalo Bore ammo.
https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...duct_list&c=40
Great post DMT! I have 2 JM 336 carbines in 30-30 (pistol grip and straight gripped) and a pre-safety 1894C .357. They are all very well made guns, beautiful lines to me. My scoped 30-30 shoots about like you reported, wearing a steel tube Weaver 4x scope. There is no question in my mind the 35 Rem is a better game round, but the 30-30 can hold its own.
Andy
I like JM Marlins too. Here are mine.
'78 RC 30/30
'89 AS 30/30
'50 SC 35 Rem
https://i.imgur.com/5jZ2FAd.jpg
I've read the .35 Remington is more prone to light primer strikes due the shape of the neck or something.
Is that true?
.35 Rem typically a 200 gr bullet @ 2000 fps from a 20 in. barrel, right?
You are absolutely right about the quality of the wood and the gun. My first gun was a Marlin 336C in .35 Remington. This was back in the late 1970s and I was a kid. I really liked that gun and felt that with it I was ready for anything that I could possibly face in NY State--be it black bears or burglars. There is a special feeling in getting your first gun. The gun has long since been traded. A bit over a year ago I found a Marlin 336C of a somewhat older vintage in a gunstore in 30-30 and bought it. This was perfect for me since I don't reload and 30-30 ammo is more available that .35 Marlin. The gun had absolutely beautiful bluing and stocks. The gun reminds me of a time when life was simpler and easier--a time when most guns came with nice wooden stocks. Here is apicture of the gun:Quote:
Originally Posted by DMTJAGER
https://i.ibb.co/W0nSp3V/Marlin-1-Copy.jpg
Here is a close up look at my Marlin stocks as an example of some of the wood they used over the years. The top rifle is a '78 walnut stock with Mar-sheild finish. Mar-sheild is an electrostatically applied lacquer finish that they used in the mid-late '70's, I'm not sure exactly when they started and stopped using it. I've always thought the late '70's were some of the most beautiful Marlin rifles. Some people don't like Mar-sheild.
The rifle in the middle is an '89 30AS, It's the budget model, that did not have walnut furniture. I think its birch wood. Very similar to the Glenfield Marlin rifles and other store brands. I think Western Auto and K-mart were some of the store brands. They are great rifles 100% JM Marlin and even though they were budget versions, now are sought-after by some collectors because they are believed to be more accurate because they have only one barrel band, unlike the regular carbine that has two barrel bands. I like my 30 AS just as much as my other Marlins. It has the smoothest action I've ever seen in a lever action rifle. It feels like the bolt is sliding through butter.
The rifle on the bottom is a '50 SC 35 rem with a walnut stock. It is an example of the finish that were on JM rifles from the '50's to the early '70's
https://i.imgur.com/AJe29rq.jpg
Wow, EZ, the top rifle stock is gorgeous! The rifle on the bottom is more typical of my Marlin stocks and honesty more typical of all my walnut stocks. I want to say my 1971 336 has a poly finished stock, my 1964 336 has an oil finish. Pretty sure both were factory finishes.
Andy