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I was surprised to run across this while searching gun.deals. I searched this site and didn't find anything. In fact, I searched YouTube and didn't find anything regarding this new release. So, there's no real information, but it's something that we literally have not seen in decades. The model number is CR6762.
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/cr6762
https://cdn22.coreware.com/cache/ima...ccfc34ca9f.jpg
Colt isn't Colt anymore is it? No telling where the parts are actually from. Looks like chrome lined, 1/12 twist https://thecoltar15resource.com/colt...x39mm-carbine/
It’s disappointing and surprising from a liability standpoint that they didn’t mark the cartridge on the receiver. The barrel profile could be better. That said, it’s been about 30 years since Colt made a 7.62x39 AR15, so I bought one. It will probably never happen again. I’ll post pictures when it arrives and will run the upper on my M16.
Most x39's are 1/10. When they built the Yemen CK-901 they used a big 7.62 bolt head. AR15 upper and .308 sized lower that took AK mags.
ColtCZ doesn't even list them on their website. :confused: not really surprising now is that?
Apparently they don't like money.
The older ones were marked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bret
I think with CZ buying Colt we're going to get to see alot of cool things that the stale Farts that ran Colt into bankruptcy with their complacency and unwillingness to cater to the Civilian Market would never do. There's alot of really cool things Colt has come up with but never showed the public. I think thats all about to change. CZ knows what they have. One of the most legendary, Historic American Icons in the History of the Republic. My Wifes brother has been with CZ for years and he is heavily involved in all things brand/future wise involving Colt.
I've noticed a big step up in quality of their Colt Government 1911's. Back to series 70 and top notch engraving. There's a long list of firearms people have wanted Colt to make/remake and Colt would have made money hand over fist. CZ/Colt plans to deliver to the Cowboy Action guys, 1911 Guys, Rifle Guys, Retro Guys and be at the front of American firearm manufacturing again. The 14.5" Colt M4's are outstanding. Old Colt would never have done that. I hear a Colt M16A4 clone is coming, A Colt Ainsworth SAA Custer 7th/CAV Replica they talked about for years looks like its coming down the pike too. There's also some serious talk of Colt purchasing a certain US MFG Bullpup that has alot going for it, but has some bugs that need to be worked out. CZ/Colt believes in the Rifle and have the $ to invest, Engineering, manufacturing space and investment to make it something a US Citizen and yes, the US Military would be interested in.
I've also heard that Colt may not be in Hartford in 5 years which is no surprise. I've heard that Tulsa may be the next home for Colt MFG.
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You know back in the 80s Colt made an AR in 7.62x39 right?Quote:
Originally Posted by NQNPIII
What have they done differently?Quote:
Originally Posted by M-FOURTEEN
Eh, cool...Whatever.
I just don't see the point anymore now that Russian ammo is banned, x39 cost more than 5.56, and 300 Ham'r exists. All that plus goofy, unreliable mags...
This isn't 30 years ago. There are reliable 7.62x39 AR15 magazines. Skip to 4:42 in the video below if you want to see them running on full auto.Quote:
Originally Posted by kerplode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma82EphaORQ
Yep. Also made the hybrid that took AK mags as I mentioned above.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteyrAUG
Now bring back a new version of the 901 please before I get more serious about a REC10 or Sig 716i.
Not Duramag. Zero malfuntions. ASC? Yep Junk. I'll never own another AK.Quote:
Originally Posted by kerplode
Agreed. Duramag is the shizznit. I also used the Ross Defense Uni Mags until they went tits up a while back. They run really well too. I inherited a few ACS mags in a trade and they are useless. Thought Duramag bought out ACS?Quote:
Originally Posted by NQNPIII
The Ross Defense Unimags are my favorite. It doesn't seem logical that they'd run 7.62x39 reliably given their profile, but they do.
I think it was C-products defense used to have ASC building their stuff years ago. ASC didn't do a good job building. C is now Duramag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch110
I sold off a bunch of unopened ASC's to a gun show dealer. I was done with their junk.
Makes sense if you are a Colt collector or / and you are stacked deep with 762x39. Otherwise, it's a no for me.
That's what it was. I knew there was some sort of buy out / building on behalf of chicanery afoot. Either way totally agree. If it has ASC on the floor plate it goes in the junk bin.Quote:
Originally Posted by NQNPIII
It's that articulated follower. I will say they do need to be cleaned and lubed on a more regulated basis as that follower tends to get sticky after a few hundred rounds from what I have experienced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bret
I like the looks of the followers in the ASC's. I have a couple brand new C-products that were in a box. Blame that on my ex-wife. We were burning a bunch of card board in the burn pile. So they will be getting ASC springs and followers!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch110
I jinxed myself. At the range yesterday and tried to insert a fully loaded Ross mag into the well and it would not fit. Look at the mag and the top is visibly bowed out under load. Unloaded it inserted fine. Didn't see any separation on the seams either. Very oddQuote:
Originally Posted by Bret
DSG in the DFW Market has them listed also. as of this post, 23 in stock.
https://dsgarms.com/coltcr6762
$1400 for the turd hand guard, and wobbly stock. Geez Colt toss some Magput on there! At least they give you a Magpul rear sight.Quote:
Originally Posted by RWH24
I rather have them give me the bare bones handguard and stock so I can modify it to my liking.
With all the piston driven 7.62x39 variants I own that use AK magazines, I fail to see why I would want to run a DI AR using proprietary mags. As dirty as it will be, I would only feed the thing brass cased ammo.
I am still holding out for a FN SCAR H lower that takes AK mags ;)
There is a Geco out there in brass. I am hearing it will not cycle an AR reliably. I haven't tried Belom, it's brass.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadAngler1
I have Geco and am picking up my 7.62x39 Colt today. I can let you know after I have a chance to shoot it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NQNPIII
Here's mine. I know it looks just like the others, but I have to show it off because pictures of guns never get old.
https://i.postimg.cc/sDP9rYYW/Colt-C...right-view.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Kv5LVZbr/Colt-CR6762-left-view.jpg
the funny thing is x39 is more expensive than 5.56 at this time
It is funny. Colt stopped offering a 7.62x39 AR15 over 25 years ago. Ever since, people have been wanting Colt to offer them again. Now that the price of 7.62x39 has gone up, they have.
I had one of those early Colts like that and sold it. No plans whatsoever to buy another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bret
Regardless of how nice the barrel is - If you are shooting crappy comblock ammo out of it you will get the crappy comblock ammo results on paper. If you are not reloading for yours then you are missing out.
I have crappy comblock copper jacketed and regular brass cased ammunition. I'll try both. I reload too.
Oddly enough, this rifle has an A1 flash hider.
You should be golden then. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bret
I think I gave $300 or so for my complete Colt upper assembly back in the day NIB. About the same time bought a SAR1 NIB from local GS for slightly less.
I think we will see a lot of what Colt "should have been making" offered now that CZ is in the driver seat. Might take awhile but I think it's coming across both the rifle, pistol, and revolver lineups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bret
Here's a picture of the SOCOM barrel profile.
https://i.postimg.cc/RhjLQdFL/Colt-C...el-profile.jpg
Interestingly, the bolt face has a gutter around its edge which I'm guessing is for debris. It's probably on other rifles, but the only time that I've seen it before is on a Zastava M85/M90 5.56x45 bolt. In the picture below, a Windham bolt carrier group is on the left and the Colt is on the right.
https://i.postimg.cc/jq9cbxXn/Windham-vs-Colt-bolts.jpg
I didn't have much time today, but I was able to put a few rounds through my new Colt 7.62x39 AR15. All of the ammunition I shot had copper jacketed bullets, not bimetal bullets.
https://i.postimg.cc/4ddsRS7f/Colt-C...irst-shots.jpg
I started off with 30rds of Tula 122gr FMJ through a D&H magazine. Everything fed, fired and ejected without issue. Ejection was about 15' to 4:00. The BCG locked back after the last round. I then fired 20rds of Geco 124gr FMJ brass cased through an ASC 20rd magazine. The results were the same except that the spent cases only went about six feet. The spent cases didn't end up with any dings or odd marks, so they'll be good to reload. Next, I fired 25rds of the same Geco ammunition through an RZE Unimag. Again, everything fed, fired and ejected without issue. Finally, I decided to push my luck and shoot some Wolf 123gr FMJ that was made in a Ukrainian factory. This particular ammunition was once offered by SGAmmo for people who needed copper jacketed instead of bimetal bullets for indoor ranges or simply because they don't want to shoot bimetal bullets through the rifles. Unfortunately, people including myself soon found out that the primers were really hard. I've never had an AK fail to fire one of these cartridges, but my other non-AK 7.62x39 rifles such as AR15's, Robinson XCR, CZ Bren 2Ms and Sig 553R would fail to fire this ammunition about 10% of the time. I probably have about ten different types of 7.62x39 ammunition, so I just avoid this Ukranian stuff in my non-AK's. At any rate, I put 20rds of this ammunition through an ASC 20rd magazine. As I suspected might happen, there were two failures to fire. Otherwise, the ammunition fed and fired just fine. Again, this no big deal as literally none of the other 7.62x39 ammunition that I have exhibits the failure to fire problem. I just thought that it was a worthwhile experiment because I know there is surplus 7.62x39 available that is known to have hard primers. My recommendation would be to avoid such ammunition in any non-AK 7.62x39 rifle. BTW, you don't need to worry about getting ahold of the hard primer Ukranian 7.62x39 ammunition. Unfortunately, the Russians destroyed the factory years ago. It would have been a great source of ammunition that wasn't subject to the Russian sanctions. :(
https://i.postimg.cc/L5gSng3G/Wolf-CJ-Ukraine.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/MTFx6mVy/Wolf-C...ne-FT-fire.jpg
So, what do I think of the rifle? I'm very pleased with it as it met my expectations completely. If you like 7.62x39 and you like AR15's, then I wouldn't hesitate to purchase one.
That is interesting. I wonder why it is used here and not other Colt bolts. x39 presumed to be dirty? Not enough space on the smaller 5.56 case head?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bret
I have a case of that Ukranian stuff. Haven't shot any of it yet.
I have some Wolf "mil-spec" greenish colored case, sealed bullet, and primer. It looks like the primers are set in too deep. I had a couple not go bang out of the same mag. This was in my PSA 16" mid gas.
My son and I put 120rds of Geco 124gr FMJ and 40rds of Tula 122gr FMJ copper jacket through it today without issue. It does kick noticeably more than 5.56x45 rifles, but it's not over gassed. The spent cases all ended up in a nice pile just a few feet to 3:00.
You can use a heavier buffer to mitigate that recoil.
I have ran as high as 6oz in my PSA's and it really helped.