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Hello all
Opinions on a ADM mount for my new to me Vortex scope. It's going on an AR with BUIS. I also like a QR mount. It currently has a Warne MSR mount on it...
I was looking at the Recon or Recon X with 2 inch offset for eye relief.
Appreciate any and all comments!
Thank you
If it were me, I would not get a heavier mount with that scope. It is already quite heavy. The DD or Warne XSKEL are both lighter.
I use the standard Recon to mount that optic in front of BUIS.
The DD is less than 3 ounces lighter than the ADM, and it's not QD.
I've had repeatable return to zero with the BOBRO extended mount that I use on a Vortex Razor Gen 2 1-6x24 LPVO that weighs 25 oz. It's been rock solid for over 5 years.
https://www.mountsplus.com/bobro-30mm-mount.html
I have the ADM M recon qd mount on my Razor, and a regular Recon qd on my BCM and they work well, but they now cost $240+ and I'm not sure that they're worth the money. As mentioned above the Bobro is probably a better option for a few dollars more and lighter weight. I do like the Warne mounts as well. I've never had Warne's with qd but I had many years of hunting with a S&W M&P10 with the Warne mount on it and it held up really well after being carried and dropped all over the north woods.
The Bobro dual lever mount’s base length has caused figment issues with BUIS and short mounting space on the optic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank6046
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Why are we using traditional BUIS with LPVO anyways?
ADM will always recommend the Delta over the Recon (I just had this conversation with them last week) because of the horizontal vs vertical split rings. Always go horizontal when you can.
From my email with the head ADM mil/LE rep:
"The solid design of the delta line with the base, rise, and lower half of the ring being one solid piece is much stronger. The recon line has a vertically split ring system. With any vertically split ring system you are limited by the clamping force of the bottom two screws to lock the rings in place to the base."
Personally, I think QD is overrated, how often are we actually removing our scope mounts? Nothing wrong with QD, but it's a little bit of added weight that will likely never be used. IMO.
Instead of traditional inline BUIS, why not a secondary aiming device, like a 45* or top mounted RDS?
And just for clarification, I am writing an LPVO white paper and currently have in my possession:
Reptilia 1.54 34mm
Vortex Lightweight 1.5 30 and 34mm
Badger 1.7 30 and 34mm
KAC 1.93 30mm
ADM Recon 1.93 30mm
ADM Delta 1.93 30mm
FAST LPVO 30mm
Thanks for the advice on the Recon vs Delta...Quote:
Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag
I will look forward to reading it if you decide to publish it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag
I need a new photo hosting service to attach a photo, but I fail to see how it's possible to mount a PST Gen 2 1-6 with an ADM Delta with both levers engaging the receiver. With this optic, cantilever isn't optional.
There's no doubt that the Delta is a stronger mount, but that does no good if it can't place the optic in a usable position.
What?Quote:
Originally Posted by grizzman
https://www.admmfg.com/viper-pst-gen-2-pkg
I guess my Google-Fu failed completely.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...unts-for-an-AR
Same hereQuote:
Originally Posted by SeriousStudent
^^^This I totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag
I've used Badger C1 with that scope and also a Razor 1x6. Yeah gotta use a 1/2 inch wrench but easy peasy and absolute return to zero.
I run B5 stocks on my LPVO guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncas47
https://b5systems.com/m-4-multitasker-tool/
I run Badger C1 1.7 w 45*ACRO and Razor 1-10 on my work gun. My home gun runs the same mount with a Viper 1-6 and 45* MPSQuote:
Originally Posted by Uncas47
I'd give a hard look at Primary Arms 30mm PLx Cantilever Mount - 1.5"
https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-...-plx-cm-30-1.5
Best part is you don't need to carry a 1/2" wrench around with you, as the PLX takes a T25 Torx. The Badger Condition One, Geissele both need a 1/2" wrench. The Reptilia AUS mount also takes a T25.
Something like a TORX SHORT ARM L-KEY T25 for under $3.00 is easy to carry and store.
https://www.wihatools.com/products/t...key-t25-x-63mm
Also, should you ever want to you can get a Primary Arms PLx Top-Cap Reflex Mount - 30mm for a mounting a small Red Dot at 12 o'clock.
https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-...t=%2Fpurchases
I have that set up with a Trijicon 2-10x36mm in a PLx 20 MOA 30mm mount, with a Holosun HE407C-GR-X2 in a PLx Top-Cap Reflex Mount. I had to use a 10mm spacer from Reptillia ROF™-RISERS FOR TRIJICON® RMR SRO due to the high turrets. The 407C has the same footprint as the Trijicon RMR.
Neat tool, I keep a small Snap On box wrench handy but rarely remove my optics. My Geissele red dot mounts have the same size lug nuts as the Badger. I switched out the GDI qd mounts for the Geisseles. Little springs and levers vs lug nuts, I wasn't using the qd feature anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by titsonritz
We might have a winner with this...Quote:
Originally Posted by 3 AE
Either the Badger Ordnance 1.700", Zero Gravity 1.700", or Reptilia Corp 1.700" LPV scope mounts in 1.700" height and in that order is what I prefer and what works the best for me and my setup.
Ordered the Bobro...from Primary Arms to take advantage of the current sale code
Thanks everyone for the advice!
https://reptiliacorp.com/product-cat...1-70in-height/
I'm just seeing these now in 1.7", I would consider this in the future for sure
I have their 1.5 model in 34mm with an ACRO top mount, very high quality mount.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank6046
Yes, I've actually mounted one for my hunting buddy who can get down to Texas and hog hunt, the build quality was impressiveQuote:
Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag
Yep. I always liked ADM mounts but for my pst gen2 I went with the Aero Precision mount this time. 3 ounces and change vs 9 ounces and change.Quote:
Originally Posted by JediGuy
Those Ultra mounts are to weak, especially for a heavy scope. I’d stick with a standard bolt up ring configuration. That joint they have on top is the weak point.Quote:
Originally Posted by INMY01TA
Careful torquing the Bobro ring nuts. I have 3 mounts sitting in my junk drawer with broken screw shafts. I tried torquing first and they vibrated loose during some 5k run and gun comps. Added loctite and now 2 screw shafts on separate mounts broke off with the nut. I switched to mounts with common screw attachments since I have yet to break a screw in one of those style mounts. Bobro will fix the mount no problem but it is a pain to send them in and you don't know it's broke till you try and remove it.
Warne and Badger are my goto's now
Thanks for the info....I snugged them down with a Wheeler torque wrench with blue Locite...hopefully everything is good.Quote:
Originally Posted by joedirt199
Have heard that loctite, ect can act as a lube leading to overtorquing. Any recommends on reducing final torque to accommodate (or is this total BS!?)?
I would reach out to get those fixed, my experience with their customer service went well. I broke one of the nuts for my Aimpoint PRO mount and they repaired it by taking it apart and updating it to the newer style top and bottom ring they use now (well a year or two ago when I sent it in).Quote:
Originally Posted by joedirt199
I torque all my normal screw mounts with loctite and have yet to break a normal screw. The Bobros can't handle much over recommended torque spec. And yes loctite can make it easier to over torque.Quote:
Originally Posted by triggerjerk
Hi. The best mount for you will depend on your specific needs and preferences. If you value quick detachment and don't mind a bit of extra weight, the ADM mounts are a great way to go. If you're looking to save some weight and possibly a bit of money, the Bobro or Warne might be better options.