Forgot about QVO Tactical, specifically their “secondary OWB”.
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Pretty much this, I ditched the whole "battle belt" set up a long time ago. Either Im using my EDC/civilian belt or I have a set of party pants next to the rest of the kit with the accoutrement already attached directly to the belt or pants. If you have time to throw on a plate carrier and helmet you have time to change a pair of pants. With far less weight and bulk of a inner and outer belt set up.
So think everyone probably agrees with this, and there is a point to be made that people are training for a civil war when they are more likely to get carjacked or run into an intruder in their work or home, but I think having a battle belt isn't a horrible idea. I trained a lot with Swat guys and they sorta emulate DeltaCagRangerSealRecon in some ways, and I am not a Swat guy let alone a ReconRanger, I was a POG Marine 10 years ago, but there is something to be said about training in a team atmosphere that a belt does lend itself to. I was in and around the George Floyd "mostly peaceful" riots, and had the Highway I was on shut down in a matter of minutes when I was attempting to get to my home. All of that showed me that having some sort of on body sustainment isn't a bad idea, and I can run out of my Vertx bag for most things but when I work wearing a dress shirt and slacks and have over 30 miles to get home, a few pouches on the belt and my hips to help carry the weight make some sense. Not that I would try to be overt with it unless the situation dictated.
I'd much prefer to have the battle belt ready to go if needed in a civilian environment, as well as it's one stop use for range, courses, etc then a dedicated pair of pants with similar set up. I don't have a helmet or chest rig, and such as this time and for me at least, those have less utility over all than those do.
I may add such things in the future dependent on emerging events and such, but I'm probably better prepared for realistic issues that could arise where I live in SHTF/civil unrest types of things, vs say full Road Warrior level stuff.
I’m just here to say that ordering down a size for an AXL Eclipse only works if you haven’t gotten fat. Looks like my wife is going to have a new belt.
That is all.