Is this now the best all around defensive .223 round?

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Originally Posted by C4IGrant

Right. I don't think people understand how much a bullet can change course after it goes through something like glass.



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So how much does it change and how do you compensate?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Redhat

So how much does it change and how do you compensate?

Thanks

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Bonded core bullets tend to retain much of their jacket and weight, consequently they will usually have less deflection after passing through glass.

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Originally Posted by fyrelt

thanks grant for the info on the speer gold dot,i have a 30 round mag loaded with the le 5.56 and the le 223 gold dot,witch one do you recomemd,i am shooting a bcm with a 14.5 barrel.

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They're the same projectile, with the 5.56 loaded to a slightly higher velocity, (50 fps). The ones I've seen shot in gelatin were pretty consistent, regardless of velocity, so I would guess the 5.56's edge would be a little more reach.

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Originally Posted by Jake'sDad

They're the same projectile, with the 5.56 loaded to a slightly higher velocity, (50 fps). The ones I've seen shot in gelatin were pretty consistent, regardless of velocity, so I would guess the 5.56's edge would be a little more reach.

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Right, but there maybe some loss in accuracy.



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Originally Posted by C4IGrant

Right, but there maybe some loss in accuracy.



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Ahhhh... didn't think of that.

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Originally Posted by Jake'sDad

Bonded core bullets tend to retain much of their jacket and weight, consequently they will usually have less deflection after passing through glass.

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Thanks

How about the second part of my question which was how do you compensate for the deflection?

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Originally Posted by C4IGrant

The Winchester 64gr Ranger is an excellent round. Just one issue. It is generally VERY hard to get.


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I've looked all over and can't find the Speer 64gr either. Does anyone have a source that a civilian can purchase from?

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Originally Posted by Watrdawg

I've looked all over and can't find the Speer 64gr either. Does anyone have a source that a civilian can purchase from?

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How hard did you look? :D

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...tion&key=24448



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Originally Posted by C4IGrant

Right, but there maybe some loss in accuracy.

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Just curious, but what specifically are you basing this assessment on?