Ok, so, an update for all interested:
I've reached out to a number of manufacturers to make a prototype and am beginning talks with a couple of them. If anyone is interested in being involved in depth in the product development, please send me a message if you haven't already. I'm working to make this a reality and get some of the V1 pouches out for T&E as soon as August.
As some folks have probably already pointed out-
-Sewn-on MOLLE attachment straps like First Spear, Tyr, and BFG do. I dig this. Way better then fooling with Malice clips (although the new fite light clips are worlds better than the bad old Malice clips if you must use them).
If possible, some sort of Hypalon helium-whisper-ish attachment for super cool lo-pro points, HOWEVER I have owned a ton of pouches with all different attachment methods and never seen enough difference to care between Hypalon and standard 1" webbing, other than perhaps a price jump...
-Don't get to carried away with internal organization. It all depends on the purpose of the pouch, and no single internal layout will please everyone, it just add weight to the pouch. I've owned multiple pouches with different types of internal org, and in the end, never used it- everything starts out organized, then when you need something, it gets yanked out of it's perfect little slot or elastic loop, which then collapses or gets lost under all the other shit you have in the pouch, and you end up just stuffing the item back in the pouch where ever it fits. Especially if the pouch is mounted on your SIDE, and you can't really crane your neck over enough to see in the thing... Except for med pouches, then it's worthwhile.
-Don't get too carried away with trying to make it do everything. All the do-all wonder-pouches I've seen either end up extremely bulky or extremely expensive...
At the end of the day, you may need two different pouches for different roles...
Leftie, you might talk to MilitaryMorons here--this kind of R&D is his bag too, and he might have some useful ideas or suggestions.
I would like to add that Crye does have a PALS and belt mount compatible GP pouch but I'm not sure if it's in the dimensions you're thinking about. Also, FirstSpear has solutions of taking normal PALs compatible pouches and making them belt compatible with their "First Link".
Jellybean,
All really good points, particularly the point of a GP pouch, and the fact that too much organization is absolutely irrelevant and counterproductive in many applications. The idea is to retain the ability to specialize/organize enough, but also allow someone to run the pouch as a true GP, stuffing things into the pouch as needed.
I am also making sure that price point and bulk are controlled on this one. As many have pointed out to me the "Jack of all trades is a master of none", which, for a GP pouch, might actually work out well, depending on how people use it.
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Diamondback, that's a great idea! I'll send him a message. Thanks for the suggestion.Quote:
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that's a really good point as well about the Crye belt mount and PALS compatibility, and they have a really good system. I'm actually taking a few of the qualities that I like from their smart pouch suite of pouches, and incorporating them into the design of this pouch. First Link is an awesome product, as are Esstac's KYWI belt loops, and I might even opt to have them be the preferred belt-mounting solution as opposed to what I've come up with, depending on if they work better for the given application.
Pinging the thread with an update: There's been a bunch of great responses through my inbox regarding this project. I've been able to refine the initial idea through a number of questionnaires as well, and might post some of the data that I've been able to compile.
I wrote this in my survey, but a pouch with full rows of PALS, can be easily mounted to a war belt, you just can’t really use malice clips as they tend to roll on you. Using Velcro I’ve secured PALS pouches to my war belt and they are as secure as any belt designated pouch. I have not figured out a method to secure that also provides a quick release for repositioning , but the point is that a 4x6 row of PALS similar to what TT does. Isn’t a death sentence for a belt platform.
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RobertTheTexan,
All good points, I'm finding that many people like the idea of a Helium Whisper-style system for attachment, and am looking at options right now (WTFix straps are really, really attractive as a potential mounting option, I'm finding out, although it remains to be seen if they are preferred compared to MALICE etc.) PALS is especially useful when paired with Esstac KYWI belt loops, but I am also exploring a direct-mounting system similar to Crye's Smart Pouch system, as well as a couple other belt-mounting systems on the market, especially with the interest that many people in the survey conveyed in having two different mounting heights.