You really arent in any position to tell anyone to "try to think".
Do yourself a favor stop posting, and start reading. Start with this:
http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf
Read it several times, dont skim.
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You really arent in any position to tell anyone to "try to think".
Do yourself a favor stop posting, and start reading. Start with this:
http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf
Read it several times, dont skim.
And this thread is being allowed to continue because....?
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That is a great post.
Don't be too harsh on Carrier, he gave it a good try. He might not be a certified ballistician like Doc, but his work is still worth looking at. At least he used what he had to try and illustrate to others what he believed in. Hell, all I have is jugs of water... so his unscientific hill-billy back yard crap is better than what I have. That is why I have been pushing for someone to do it right.
Ya, I know.
So how do we get that information published? Or how do we get it repeated?
Well, that is understandable. It took longer than 20 years for the .357 Magnum to catch on, maybe the 10mm will gain in popularity as it gets a little older.
The .357magnum gained popularity during the early years of hollow point bullet designs. In those days, manufacturers in general did not understand the complexity of terminal effects science. So, they did all their testing in water tanks which of course exaggerate bullet expansion and do not give a clear measurement of penetration depth. No standards means no guarentee on caliber and ammunition performance.
Since human flesh is NOT 100% water, a hollow point bullet will expand less in tissue than it does in water. From the 1960s to the early 1990s, LE agencies, medical examiners, and doctors around the country noticed that many slower velocity calibers were not very effective at quickly incapacitating someone who was shot. This led to the great false assumption that higher velocity somehow translated into "knockdown power". The reality was that these poorly designed SP and JHP of that day would only reliably expand at the higher velocities offered by cartridges like the .357magnum. LE agencies gravitated to the correct solution available to them at the time, but they didn't have an understanding as to what the problem was to begin with. Many agencies now use slower velocity calibers with modern ammunition and have experienced great results. This is very likely why there is no carved in stone end all be all caliber to carry now days, because ammunition evolution has made all the popular service calibers more effective across the board.
Ballistic science is better understood nowdays. The .357mag became popular because it seemed to do something that the other available calibers could not do at the time. Today, with better ammunition thanks to the FBI and IWBA, there is no observable improvement in using the 10mm over standard service calibers. So, I don't see it getting more popular.