Pistol caliber carbines are winning my soul - and they should win yours too

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If maximum conceal-ability is the main concern. Then why not go with a chassis system for a Glock or a Sig? Something like a Flux or a B&T. Easier to conceal than a PCC and more effective than a pistol.

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Originally Posted by RetroRevolver77

The weapon that is seen is the weapon that will get you killed.

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Yea, unless you have several friends w/rifles with you it's best to go grey-man as possible.

I'm using a Vz-61 (semi) for this.

No one is saying you have to run around flaunting

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Originally Posted by Uni-Vibe

I'll go Yoni one better: when you have a PCC with 16 inch barrel, there's much less noise and concussion and flash than even a pistol.

That's why my home defense weapon is a PCC.

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Yea my Tavor SAR in 9mm is a big gun, but shoots as soft as the PS90. A pleasure to shoot!

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Originally Posted by RetroRevolver77

The weapon that is seen is the weapon that will get you killed.

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Oh fer ****s sake.

How about the weapon you have to dig out of deep concealment is the weapon that will get you killed.

See how that works.

All military and LE have visible weapons, those visible weapons aren't the reason cops and military get killed.

Lots of conceal carry types get killed because they are late to a game that started without them.

How about understand ALL the variables of armed conflict and try and be as competent as possible with all of those variable in mind.

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Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

Oh fer ****s sake.

How about the weapon you have to dig out of deep concealment is the weapon that will get you killed.

See how that works.

All military and LE have visible weapons, those visible weapons aren't the reason cops and military get killed.

Lots of conceal carry types get killed because they are late to a game that started without them.

How about understand ALL the variables of armed conflict and try and be as competent as possible with all of those variable in mind.

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Amen.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ccabe4089d.jpg

I don't care if you carry the weapon visible or in deep concealment.

If your not switched on to your environment, you will be easy to kill.

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Originally Posted by yoni

I don't care if you carry the weapon visible or in deep concealment.

If your not switched on to your environment, you will be easy to kill.

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I saw a Scorpion in the K configuration at the range the other day. I had never seen one in person, and I was pretty impressed by it.

The right sling, stock collapsed, and a mindful carrier, people would have no clue in general observation that guy had a subgun.

I hate this thread because it makes so much sense, and it's going to cost me so much money.

It is simple as to why I am a huge fan of small PCC, because they have saved my life more than once.

Mission dictates the right tools for that mission.

I just wish B&T would make a TP9 that takes CZ P09 mags.