I got an old 3rd hand gunsite t shirt.......... why do I need training LOL.
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I got an old 3rd hand gunsite t shirt.......... why do I need training LOL.
Not upset, just pointing out a good illustration of the mentality of the average gun-forum window licker as a negative example.Quote:
Originally Posted by LOKNLOD
So many people think that owning and carrying a gun denotes skill.
IMHO, the day I stop learning is the day I die!!
I posted on another forum a few months ago how I thought it was irresponsible to strap on a gun without any sort of training. The uproar was deafening.
It is more arrogance and pride than stupidity. Here on M4, where folks "get it", you get kudos for how much training and experience with a firearm that you have while on others you will get high praise for that beautiful picture of the firearm that you just purchased only to be become a safe queen. :rolleyes:
A few years ago I was out with my boys shooting when an old retired guy showed up and started shooting with us. He told us all kinds of good stories of his time with guns but I couldn't help noticing how poorly he handled himself with them. My boys actually commented on the way home how they felt that he was not following the safety rules that they had learned.
I wouldnt say that everyone here gets it. It took me a little bit to realize that I didnt get it, and then a little longer to realize how much was actually available (even for FREE). What I will say though is being open minded allowed me to end up getting set straight.
Unfortunately, you run into this even in more "switched on" clubs. The club I belong to has a fairly active IDPA and 3 Gun culture, and have for years, but very, very few of those guys have ever attended a class.
I don't know if age has a lot to do with it, although it might.
My father is 69 years old and is a a recreational shooter. He's an Army non combat vet (1960-1963), but he's attended a Vickers Battle Rifle class and a Pennington Concealed Carry class, and took a huge amount of knowledge away from both.
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Some people just know what they know and won't be swayed.
I'm as fiercely pro gun, pro personal freedom guy as you'll meet, but having worked in and out of the industry for the past 20 + years has led me to believe that the vast majority of "gun owners", shouldn't be.
Not until they get some decent training anyway.
The military is no exception to this mentality.
Learning never stops. It must never stop. We must not tolerate attitudes or advocacy to the contrary in others.
If I had a dollar for every time some old duffer muzzle swept me with a gun I'd be rich. I seriously considered hitting my FIL in the mouth over the weekend because he just can't ****ing remember not to point guns at me. He is always finger-****ing something and will wave it around with total disregard for his environment. I found myself looking down the muzzle of a loaded S&W 629 while he examined the side of the cylinder for who-the-****-knows-what, and I had finally had enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarshallDodge
I finally told him when he thinks he can remember NOT to point guns at me, then my wife and I will be around him again, but if he can't, then he can go **** himself, and maybe we'll see him at his funeral. Maybe.