Edit: I guess not since it seems some SJW moron decided to go full reta-- activist on their own.
https://soldiersystems.net/2021/06/1...-not-anti-gun/
https://i.imgur.com/vT6MTXI.jpg
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Edit: I guess not since it seems some SJW moron decided to go full reta-- activist on their own.
https://soldiersystems.net/2021/06/1...-not-anti-gun/
https://i.imgur.com/vT6MTXI.jpg
Wow what an epic blunder.
The original anti-gun post was seen by millions, the correction will be seen by very few.
Yup. Screw them.
They back peddeled real fast on that.
Ehhhh they're Canucks. By default they are anti gun for ordinary people.
Anybody else actually read the story at the link?
Hell, haven’t you all been paying attention- most gun owners are anti gun these days…
Does anyone think the pronouns in the sig line support the “innocent mistake” she/her/hers made?
You forgot spineless, sissy, Fudd...
Supposedly the word from Corporate is they've moved such business over to their LEAF (LE/Armed Forces) business unit. I'll believe it when I see more evidence, but Soldier Systems Daily is White Knighting and knobgobbling for them pretty hard.
I am wondering if moving them to "LEAF" is a way for them to bow to pressure and keep the business at the same time. Kind of stupid. But they can say -- we don't service those types any more (using some wishy washy words) when pressured, but they can say they do serve the police and armed forces still, and just serve the firearms industry out that same door.
You people need to read the entire article. The headline was misleading intended to cause emotional response. Which it did from several people here that didn't read the article.
It started on the social media twatter, book of face and spread like wildfire before the company came on to explain the situation, by then it was too late.
The signature says:
Pronouns: she/her/hers
Whats that all about?
If means if Randy Savage wants to be called "she" the Woke think you should comply.
If it matters, I have one LEAF product
(Khard 30 pack WHICH ROCKS AND GETS COMPLIMENTS EVERYWHERE I GO) plus several civilian level pieces WHICH ROCK AND GET COMPLIMENTS WHERE THE F*CK EVER I GO.....Arc’Teryx makes serious pro gear for those who choose to spend their their time doing shit to the max, be it skiing, ice climbing or door kicking, or what ever. Hate stupid ignorant millennials all day (I’ll join your anti-millennial love to hate phest) but seriously, the above mentioned buffoonery is par for the course in this modern society. Take it in stride, submit your grievance via HR and gracefully
accept the apologies for what they are worth. Basically, the spesh-ed kids are getting their place in the spot light,...the adults in the room are staying quiet long enough to let the emo kids burn out and STFU. Just let the little ones shriek until they grow hoarse and take their naps. Things will return to center soon enough.
I did read the entire article. As I understand it, somebody who was in no place to speak for the company spoke for the company.
I also understand that in the past the company has done business with firearms related companies and that is why so many are concerned that the gun buying public might crap on them over an misunderstanding and the views of a lone employee.
I guess where I'm at, and the point of my comments, is that Canadian companies seems to view this kind of things as a "default position" where even employees of a given company make mistakes of this kind, the ship is kind of lost and we should probably procure things from more staunchly second amendment companies. Certainly we can find similar gear stateside without indirectly contributing to the economy of Canada.
I am a poor, fixed income retiree, I can't afford Arc’teryx. But really is it that much better than other brands or is it just the cachet.
yes some of their items are insane nice but some is now cheap poor made and not lasting though so top end yes bottom end NO :)
the one thing that makes them is the fit and cut of their nice stuff is just made to be worn but again other companies can do this also they just use superior build so they last and last
I own some of their stuff and its some of my favs but a huge margin on fit and lasting
that said I also got some great shirts that are quite nice at costco 2 for $12.99 :) they do not fit as well but maybe $6.50 a shirt who freaking cares ! that is a great deal !
also some cheap costco pants for working in the garden again like $12 I get one season out of them tops
but also own fjallraven that are $100 shorts and so so so so worth it as they outlast my costco stuff every single time and when wearing are superior in fit comfort pocket design and use and can beat the tar out of those for years and my go to
IMHO having a few good pieces is well worth it
I know the article was what it was I commented on the new woke pronoun garbage :)
also they wont pro deal contractors like some do such as KEEN etc...
edit to say as easy as others :)
You can get civilian Arc'teryx stuff on pro deal here if you qualify: https://outdoorprolink.com/signup
For LEAF products, getting a pro account through distributors like https://www.us-elitegear.com/ or https://www.tacticaldistributors.com/ is the way to go; it ends up being basically the same price as purchasing LEAF directly with a personal pro account. The best way to get LEAF gear is to just wait for their semi-annual sales, though, and snag it then.
I think it's on par with Beyond, the better North Face stuff, etc. I have a few of their outerwear stuff and used some of the LEAF gear. It's solid.
But most people won't take advantage of the performance capabilities of what it's designed for. In spite of wearing dead bird stuff, now I am in that category.
You can get it cheaper on ebay, REI's Outlet and Used Gear sections online, some other places.
Here's the reply from Arcteryx listed in the linked article:
“The email screenshot expressing a restrictive policy on corporate sales to tactical industry business was sent out in error. It does not reflect our current policy. The customer has been notified, apologized to, and been put in touch with a representative from the Arc’teryx LEAF business unit”.
When I read that response the sentence "It does not reflect our current policy." puzzles me. Why not just say "It does not reflect our policy."? With the word "current" in there it makes me wonder if it was their policy for some time period, but it is no longer their policy.
Nor does it say that the stupid twat was dismissed from their employ. Which would have been the first line if she had refused an order from antifa.
Clown world.
I don't care if they are anti gun or pro gun or neutral, I don't have a single piece of their product because I see no reason to pay $1000 for a jacket. I can buy stuff to keep me warm from Kohl's, Cabelas, Bass Pro, Academy Sports at 1/10 of that price and feel as comfortable, warm and dry. And I have. BTW, I don't own any North Face stuff either for the same reason. I don't need the name brand.
On the other hand, I spend my money on watches ...
I think if one is planning an Everest expedition or serious outdoor activities long term, Arc'teryx is certainly a brand they should look at along with Patagonia and other high end products. However, for normal day to day wear, you are right that there's very little that they offer that can't be replicated far cheaper than "lower" tier brands. Basically, Arc'teryx is the 5.11 to the Bass Pro "Wrangler" cargo pants.
Speaking of watches (sorry for the thread drift) but that Citizen Super Titanium Armor line is badass. I'm really contemplating one...