Hard Water Bottle/Canteen And Carriage Options?
Looking for some options on hard (plastic, metal) water bottles, as well as carriage on gear (shooting loadout, pack).
I love camelback style water bladders- I think they're the next best thing since sharpened steel and gunpowder, BUT I have been doing some reading lately and it has occured to me that maybe they're not quite the be all- end all to water storage in the great outdoors, and maybe I should consider the addition of something more traditional.
It seems sometimes it can be easier to purify natural water with these, as they can hold hot water (like with a stacked cup ICW the bottle https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=114195), or be boiled in and of themselves if needed. Can't do that with a bladder...
For hard bottles, here are some thoughts and concerns I am having;
I like the Nalgene type (32 oz, widemouth http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/...tle-76p468.htm)- cheap, and from what I've read about as indestructible as a plastic bottle can get. Doesn't hold odors.
Can get a CapCap (http://www.humangear.com/capcap/) to make use easier, while keeping the widemouth.
Cons- not very heat resistant, still ****ing (did the swear filter work?:p) plastic. Maybe not so good in cold weather, being plastic?
The oldschool USGI style canteens are pretty sweet as you can get them with the little metal cup-thingy so you can heat water and stuff.
Speaking of which, dose anyone have a good source to buy them complete like that, where they're not mauled to death or filled with 300 year old swamp water? USGI stuff makes me leery...
Dislikes- still plastic, narrow mouth is narrow... sucks for cleaning or inserting stuff. Holds odors[?]. Same other concerns as Nalgene.
Apparently Nalgene makes one (http://store.nalgene.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=27).
Seems it's compatible with the USGI canteen cup, so I guess it's about the same size too.
Metal bottles- Have seen some recomendations for Klean Kanteen. Apparently their 40oz (http://www.kleankanteen.com/products...-40oz-wide.php) is about the same size as a Naglene 32oz. Their 27oz. looks interesting as well, as a daily or BB bottle.
A little more expensive (ok, like 3x more...) than the Nalgene/USGI offerings, BUT if they're that awesome, I'll take em'. AND there's currently a 20% off sale...
Apparently these can also be boiled by themselves if need be as well.
Cons- it's metal. Makes loud noises. Freezing in cold weather?
That's what I saw for bottle options that looked interesting, and have carriage options readily avilable.
Speaking of carriage options;
Want the ability to mount whatever hard bottle I go with to MOLLE.
Seeing a bit of a trend in this area, and there's 4 options I'm liking;
>Maxpedition 10x4 Bottle Holder (http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/...lder-7p574.htm)
>Hazard 4 Jelly Roll (http://hazard4.com/products/accessor...hes/jelly-roll)
>HSGI Nalgene Pouch (http://www.skdtac.com/HSGI-Nalgene-P...-p/hsg.214.htm)
>Maxpedition USGI 1Qt Canteen Pouch (http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/...OUCH-7p999.htm)
Concerns- pouches with rounded backs seem like they'd roll back and forth a lot when full and moving.
Sagging? Especially if the bottle doesn't fit the pouch exactly, or if all molle loops aren't engaged (like mounted to a battle belt).
Narrow MALICE attachment points- yay for there being two straps, but so close together, AND with a rounded back on some options? Hmmm....
Not sure if HSGI option is big enough for 32/40oz. Nalgenen/KK offerings?
Saw HSGI's newest offering their "Soft Taco" that can fit a 32oz. metal bottle. First USGI taco pouch I've liked, and would be good for BB use, BUT the 27/32. oz metal bottles in that style may be to tall, versus a USGI canteen, or standard Nalgene, and again, concerns with rolling/flopping/sagging.
Considering a USGI for BB use, as it's a little shorter (albeit, wide).
What to do....
What options are you guys using for bottles and MOLLE attachment that works?
I didn't know whether to put this here or in Tactical gear, so....
Hard Water Bottle/Canteen And Carriage Options?
Orig Nalgene wide mouth (milky white) with cap-cap. Glacier SS nesting cup for boiling, in a 5.11 nalgene pouch. (closeout item)
The pouch has some external molle as well, not suitable for mags but ideal for small sheath knife or leatherman, etc.
With some 1 liter platypus bladders to round that out for my working water supply
Won't go into all the details, but these are my new pack/vehicle survival kit. (contents stored in bottle till needed in zip/allocs)
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