Leupold 1x14 Tactical Prismatic Rifle Scope?

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Originally Posted by Singlestack Wonder

Bottom line, the prismatic is OK for ipsc competition and gun games, but not for real world applications, period. No need to re-hash all of the reasons why.

If someone want to use it for real world use, good luck...........

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While I am not a huge Prismatic fan I think your generalization is a bit sweeping and not factual.
Pat

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Originally Posted by Alaskapopo

While I am not a huge Prismatic fan I think your generalization is a bit sweeping and not factual.
Pat

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Let's see:

a) Extremely poor battery life
b) Detachable illumination module that could come loose under hard use and at night make the sight totally unusable.
c) External focus ring that can be struck and moved rendering the reticle view difficult to use in a SHTF situation.

For ipsc matches that last a few hours or a couple of days, OK. Not OK for months in the harsh enviroments and SHTF situations that Aimpoints excel at.

If I need long distance engagments, then S&B, Swaro, or NF. For infighting with the above units, an offset Aimpoint.

YMMV

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I vote that Leupold sends one to Rob_S for evaluation.

Besides the standard optical evaluation, extreme conditions testing should also be included.

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Originally Posted by Singlestack Wonder

Let's see:

a) Extremely poor battery life
** No prismatic optic has a battery life even approaching an Aimpoint (for that matter, no other RDS can make that claim, either).
b) Detachable illumination module that could come loose under hard use and at night make the sight totally unusable.
** "Could" come loose. Can you provide any real-life instances where this has happened (for that matter, can you provide any real-life instances of a Prismatic failure of any kind)? Plus, even without the illumination module, the Prismatic is still usable if you can still see your target by ambient light or weaponlight (an illuminated reticle does you no good if you can't see/ID your target).
c) External focus ring that can be struck and moved rendering the reticle view difficult to use in a SHTF situation.
** Strike *any* optic hard enough and it will fail. Is the Prismatic as rugged as the T-1 Micro? I doubt it. Is the Prismatic rugged enough? No hard evidence yet to the contrary. The Aimpoint M2/M3/Pro all have an external switch that's susceptible to impact breakage plus potential impact-caused optic rotation in the mount (both fixed in the M4 series) but I don't hear anyone saying don't use them because of that.

For ipsc matches that last a few hours or a couple of days, OK. Not OK for months in the harsh enviroments and SHTF situations that Aimpoints excel at.

If I need long distance engagments, then S&B, Swaro, or NF. For infighting with the above units, an offset Aimpoint.

YMMV

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Tomac

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Originally Posted by ChocLab

Why doesn't Leupold give a Prismatic to F2S to test and evaluate?

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In the works [winks face]

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Originally Posted by Failure2Stop

In the works [winks face]

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Looking forward to the results, whatever they may be.
Tomac

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Originally Posted by Failure2Stop

In the works [winks face]

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It will be great to have an objective review from you - we look forward to seeing it.

Perhaps Leupold would be receptive to some "destuctive testing" as well?

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Originally Posted by Tomac

b) Detachable illumination module that could come loose under hard use and at night make the sight totally unusable.
** "Could" come loose. Can you provide any real-life instances where this has happened (for that matter, can you provide any real-life instances of a Prismatic failure of any kind)? Tomac

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I would like to but unfortunately, there is no quantifiable data for this product as it has not been accepted by any sizeable group of users whether civilian, law, or military. Of course, that may be a "clue". I got rid of mine for several reasons (tunneling at different angles of view, poor battery life (and while the black reticle is visible, it is still all but invisible when looking into dark backgounds even in daylight)).