Are these magazines really the best or is it hype?:confused:
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Are these magazines really the best or is it hype?:confused:
They work very well in SA80A2s ;) . They're pretty much hype in ARs.
Magpul PMAGs if they fit your lower correctly are about the best you can do. USGI mags are still very good but I prefer them with Magpul followers.
HK mags in very fast cycling ARs will very quickly start not locking the bolt back when they run empty. I've had this occur in less than 500 rounds on 1 HK mag with my 10" LMT.
Like Robb said PMAG all the way man. You can get 2 or 3 for the price of one HK mag.
Starting to get some feedback from elsewhere about these mags failing during some intensive carbine training.Is it true you can't get replacemnt springs for these either? If that's true I wouldn't own one. So MagPul's the way to go these days?
HK's stance on the issue is that magazines are a disposable item so the spring is proprietary. One wears out and/or breaks you just purchase another one. Quite a feat at an average of $50.00 a pop.
As mentioned above, the PMAG is a much better value and with that value much more durable also. They are all I will purchase now. Eventhough I bought two HK mags from DSG Arms when they had them for $25.00 a piece. Still, PMAGs are the hot ticket as far as magazines go. You will not regret purchasing some, then more.
Thank you all. I will go ahead and pick up a few PMags now and if the election starts to go South I'll stockpile a bunch.
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The irony is, that in the HK mag owners manual, it states under the trouble shooting section that the corrective action for cetain issues is to replace the spring. But, as mentioned, they dont sell the springs. I also find it just funny that a magazine has a multipage owners manual.....
I used HK mags in the sandbox. They were obviously more durable than the aluminum USGI magazines, but every damn magazine we had would catch the lip of the brass while feeding/unloading the magazine. This didn't always create feeding problems while firing but it did often enough for me to ditch the HK mags and go back to USGI mags.
I've since swooped up some PMAGs and have been nothing but impressed by their smooth feeding.
Same here.
I couldn't justify the weight of the HK mags. I didn't see that they were THAT good.
If you are buying these mags out of pocket then I would just upgrade good USGI mags (check the feed lips) with Magpul followers. When the springs wear out replace them with chrome silica springs or the CMMG springs. This is what I did.
Going forward, I would buy the PMags especially for civilian or LEO purposes. As a .mil guy I like to blend in so I use mags that look the same as everybody elses.
I cannot justify the cost of HK mags given that there are better choices for almost 1/3rd the price.
From Larry Vickers:
From Pat Rogers:Quote:
"Let me jump in here and let everyone know I agree with Pat 100% on the HK M16 mags - they have several fleas, all of which are fixable, and I have voiced this to HK several times - don't know when or if they will fix them; so far no joy - until further notice I do not use or recommend them."
Quote:
"A metric handful of HK mags bit the dust and were promptly crushed and discarded. At one time I thought they were viable, but there are more and more issues surfacing with them--feeding issues, something that has resurfaced...."
Where is the best place to buy PMAGs?
Not to drag this thread out too much but what about the CProuducts mags that have the orange MagPul followers?
We sell PMAGS for $13.50 apiece when you buy QTY's of 10 or more at a time.
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...&category=MAGP
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CProducts has been to hit or miss as far as quality and customer service. Whereas Magpul has the quality, industry leading customer service, and durability that no USGI style magazine can match as evidenced by the torture test Magpul has put them through and more so the torture test owners are performing on them.
Stick with p-mags… under $15 cant be beat!
Yeah that's the same for me too. I can't remember if I noticed it first in my 10" gun or when my 3gun rifle was a 20" rifle gas w/ultra light stainless JP carriers. But that's the same thing I discovered. If I used the not locking back HK mags in a regular M16 carrier equipped middy or rifle length AR they would work fine. I'm soon going to try one of these SS lighter JP carrier again in my 3gun rifle. What I'm going to experiment with is trying either SAW 'red' springs or Wolff +10% springs in my PMAGs to ensure that they can keep up with the increased bolt velocity.
The HK mags are just damn heavy too.
You can't really notice when comparing one full USGI to one full HK, but carry 12 full HK mags on your kit and you will notice a big difference.
You make a good point, but for the price of the product vs. what it offers....I'm happy to help find out what bugs they may have by using them in my gun.
So far, I am very happy with them, and will not purchase another USGI mag until my opinion of the PMAG changes.