Saw this over on vuurwapenblog(hopeully he doesnt mind me barrowing it) and man do I want one, finally a monolithic upper that does not have a carbine length handguard.
http://vuurwapenblog.com/wp-content/...10/colthgs.jpg
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Saw this over on vuurwapenblog(hopeully he doesnt mind me barrowing it) and man do I want one, finally a monolithic upper that does not have a carbine length handguard.
http://vuurwapenblog.com/wp-content/...10/colthgs.jpg
I saw this on his facebook page. It looks really good to me. Is the extention on the rail held on with the rail section?
Interesting. Looks like the handguard is one piece up to the front sight and sectional past that point; that could be a nice feature.
I'm just wondering how they pin the FSB on there with the barrel installed in the upper.
They're hiring ARFCOM members as colt. :(
For most users, longer FF rails, collapsible stocks, QD points, expensive optics, and all the rest of the stuff you think people buy just to look cool, is exactly that -- stuff to look cool in picture threads on ARFCOM. So you're right in a way.
But seriously, try to make an ATILLA-200 or a PEQ-15 and a Surefire light work on an M4 with a KAC RAS, for example. It really sucks.
For most people a rifle like the Colt pictured above is purely for cool points, but for others who have legitimate use of the features, it's nice to see Colt getting modern. What's the actual, practical downside to any of it -- besides that some people will drool over it because it looks cool?
Further proof that Mega halting production of their mono for their states reasons was absolute bullshit.
I don't know all the details, but perhaps the removable bottom rail section is the key difference. The Colt has it while the LMT and MEGA don't. Could that be the salient point in the patent which makes the two too much alike?
Just another thought -- MEGA is a relatively small operation compared to Colt. Maybe they didn't think the risk was worth the reward and don't have the legal apparatus in place to properly deal with it.
They still can't make a midlength though?
Hmmm, just never thought of monolithic as being one of those things to really benefit the system. But then again, a same could be said about a midlength but I really do like my BCM 16" middy and wouldn't have any other on a 16".
Cool to see Colt starting stretch out a little though.
Vltor's VIS is similar. Though I wish it had the removable rail sections. They also have a mid length at 9" and an extended mid length at 10". If they weren't so cost prohibited I would do all my builds with mono uppers. Loved the Mega ones and I am sad to see them go.
AR guys are the only folks I know who go ga-ga over metal handguards:jester:
Lol! Figures they'd come out with this. I just picked up an anodized 6920 and plan to shave the FSB for a long free-floated tube.
From the pics they look pretty nice. I can't wait to see one in person.
I'll give you three reasons why Colt isn't bothering with mid length gas systems. Firstly, the large majority of rifles Colt manufactures are 14.5" barreled M4 Carbines which have proven time and time again to be most reliable when a carbine length gas system is used. Secondly, if Colt uses the carbine gas system on all of its rifles it only has to manufacture one length of gas tube for all its rifles barreled 10.3" all the way to 16" which simplifies the supply chain some. Finally, the military doesn't want it and since Colt largely builds for contracts it makes no sense for them to make one.
Also, it should be pointed out that those three prototype marked rifles, according to SSD, were all piston system rifles. Also the rail extension reminds me strangely of a C8 rifle I saw awhile back. I will have to hunt down the pic and see if it is a similar/same design.
colt system is still 2 pieces so it doesn't break the patent LMT has but Mega's design is a one piece design that is where they screwed up. LMT has a patent on the one piece design.
Mixed feelings. Colt's Gasblock sight is still weird, and inferior to KAC, or PRI's offering.
They should just shitcan it.
IMHO the 6943 is Colt's best monolithic offering still.
koniz...as usual I appreciate the info. You don't post much, but when you do I almost always learn at least a little something new.
The thoughts from your particular unique perspective(someone who actually machined a ton of MRP chassis) on the new design of the LM8MRP/LM8MWS VS. the MRP/MWS would be invaluable to me, but that would be hard since you didn't make any LM8s.
At this point, and imho....the LM8 just isn't a finish product.
Agreed on the front sight. Add a low-profile gas block and a continuous 12 o'clock rail and we'd really be in business. I also wonder how the rail sections are attached. Steel inserts for the threads like the Geissele would have been nice, but that was probably never in the cards.