Talk Me Out of a Suppressor
Hey guys, I'm looking at beginning to build my way towards a suppressor for my home defense handgun (pay tax stamp, save up and buy threaded barrel, save up until everything clears and get the suppressor). I have a few questions, though. I live in Louisiana by the way, which is probably the least strict state in the country with firearms.
Do I need an actual Class III license or whatever, or just apply for the tax stamp for the suppressor? Also, and more importantly - I've seen tests show that on a 9mm, the average suppression seems to be from around 160db to around 120+db...which is still enough to damage your hearing permanently, right? So what's the point then, for my application (primarily home defense) if my hearing is going to be damaged either way if I ever have to use it? This is the biggest question in my mind right now and the only answer I can come up with is that it may help protect the hearing of my family if they are nearby. Opinions?
Re: Talk Me Out of a Suppressor
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aaron_c
I'll have to see if I can find any, but I don't know of any local gun stores that have suppressors in stock. And the people that I know well enough to shoot with all have suppressed .22's (which seems really expensive for an already quiet toy to me but to each his own lol). I understand what you mean about if you ever had to lose the suppressor to police confiscation, but honestly that would be the least of my worries (behind the fact that I'd shot someone / shot at someone, and the fact that I now had no suppressed weapon to protect my hearing lol. I guess I see the suppressor as a tool, and it would have done its job at that point.
Shoot the guy, take off the suppressor and roll it into your closet, lol.
Talk Me Out of a Suppressor
A suppressor is worth the money and effort. My neighbour made the same comment that a 22lr didn't need to be suppressed. So I let him shoot my Walther P22 with no suppressor and he later told me his ears rang until the next morning.
Sorry if I missed it but, what gun do you want to suppress?
And for the most Bang (I mean lack of bang) for your buck I recommend an SWR Octane 45 HD. Excellent quality and customer service and less than $ 650.00. With the Oct45 you can shoot 45 ACP and sub cals ,40 S&W,9 MM, .357 Mag, 38 Spl, .380, 300 AAC blk (subs.) And since it is user serviceable you could shoot 22 lr out of it with no worries of lead build up.
In this NFA thread look at the topic Silencer comparison video by Fireman 1291. And if you go to his Y-tube channel he has a video about shooting un/suppressed indoors.
Kevin
Talk Me Out of a Suppressor
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Originally Posted by
aaron_c
Thanks for the reply, Kevin. It's a Glock 19 I'm wanting to suppress. I remember seeing the SWR Octane, isn't it the one that is relatively small as well?
It is similar to other leading manufactures in respect to size and weight. But the shining point is the CAT SS baffles. They contain all the gunk. Go to Y-tube and watch how the Oct45/9 is disassembled cleaned/reassembled compared to an AAC Ti-Rant.
The Oct45 is slightly longer/heavier than the Oct9, but you may have a 45/40 planned in the future that you don't know about yet.
I have an Silco Osprey and Sparrow in my possession, and an Oct45 transferring to my c3 dealer. Osprey is nice but, I'm working on a Ruger 77/357 SBR and need a can that will handle the 357 mag. After cleaning the Sparrow not having to force the baffles out of the tube because of gunk is awesome.
Talk Me Out of a Suppressor
I have found it cheaper to buy the suppressor on line out of state and not pay state tax. However you will have to pay a NFA transfer fee with your local dealer. The fee is basically renting a space in the dealers safe while the approval process takes place. When I purchased my first can he had it in stock and I payed 6.5% state sales tax on a $ 750.00 suppressor + a $40 transfer fee. If I have a suppressor I purchased out of state with no state sales tax it is $ 75.00 transfer fee which is only $ 25.00 more than the $ 40.00 but, with out state tax.
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Talk Me Out of a Suppressor
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Originally Posted by
Failure2Stop
A suppressor on a handgun intended for home/self defense will add weight and length to an item that is valued for its compactness and low weight.
I would be more inclined to put a suppressor on a short rifle for HD than a pistol.
1. Now our adding another $ 200.00 stamp and wait times/ availablty.
2. Two handed weapon (calling 911,opening/closing doors, gathering family.)
3. Still longer than his G17+suppressor.
4. Grater sound with a suppressed rifle than hand gun.
5. Over penetrating soft concealment( dry wall.)
Re: Talk Me Out of a Suppressor
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Originally Posted by
aaron_c
Also, and more importantly - I've seen tests show that on a 9mm, the average suppression seems to be from around 160db to around 120+db...which is still enough to damage your hearing permanently, right? So what's the point then, for my application (primarily home defense) if my hearing is going to be damaged either way if I ever have to use it? This is the biggest question in my mind right now and the only answer I can come up with is that it may help protect the hearing of my family if they are nearby. Opinions?
Have everyone wear ear muffs to bed & skip all this headache... :)
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patrick sweeney
And go directly to jail, for tampering with evidence.
Don't even joke about this. You tamper with the crime scene, your status suddenly changes from "crime victim/homeowner" to "secondary suspect" in the investigation.
If you took off your red dot, would that be tampering with evidence? If you dropped your mag to tac reload, would that be tampering with evidence? If you changed batteries on your flashlight? Took off your glasses? Put on pants?