OP I would suggest heading to your local wally world and picking up a Colt 6920 or 6920 SOCOM.
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OP I would suggest heading to your local wally world and picking up a Colt 6920 or 6920 SOCOM.
Your gunbroker link doesn't work for me. How much was your SOCOM? DSG sells them for $1400 in stock.
6920's are $1,000 but must be backordered.
6920 Magpul edition is $1100 and in stock.
http://dsgarms.com/Category/480_1/Colt.aspx
??? I don't think that tirade was exactly necessary. In my experience most marines / army / whatever don't know shit about their equipment. A friend of mine who was 1st/75th rangers said that he used "a rifle with a stock that folded and one that had a collapsible stock" while he was in afghanistan... he had no idea what they were called (he did get that it was a SCAR when i suggested that could be the one with the "folding stock").
My suggestions:
BCM
LMT
Colt
The spec sheet has useful information but some manufacturers just do a better job putting together reliable weapons. Typically if they take the time to get all the details right, it will be a solid rifle but ppl tend to keep a mental track record of the pros and cons that they either experience first hand or read about and that can factor into opinions. Out of these 3, I prefer LMT although they are missing a few things on that "spec sheet" just because I have had owned several and know 1st hand that they will work so its just kinda a "what i am comfortable with" thing.
Gents, pretty sure the OP said he has already decided on a Colt LE6920 SOCOM.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=358149924
We're not always the most diplomatic crew around here. I know being in the military (if you count the USAF as military) did little to knock off any of my rough edges. Took a wife and a couple of kids to do that.
Welcome to the forums! The razzing and hazing is all part of the show. Doesn't mean you gotta roll over and take it without giving any back!
The simplest solution to your problem is to get a Colt carbine. The 6920 is a good choice and the most available
http://www.gandrtactical.com/PDGImages/LE6920_NP1.jpg
G&R Tactical has them in stock for less than $1200. http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...ction&key=6920
My preference would be the Colt 6720 because I like the lightweight barrel profile better than the M4 for a couple of technical reasons, but mostly it's a personal choice
http://www.gandrtactical.com/PDGImages/6720.jpg
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...ction&key=6720
They are currently out of stock at G&R. If I wanted a carbine now, I'd opt for the 6920 and get to shooting. Don't worry about ordering online from G&R because the Colt is good and reliable out of the box and if for some reason it isn't, G&R will absolutely take care of you.
I know the sacrifices we make serving our country are not for ourselves, but for our future generations. Thank you for your service
People who live in glass houses...:D
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Back on topic, OP, the Colt you've selected will serve you well. I was in your shoes several years ago, and didn't know what I didn't know. This site helped me get my head on straight and led me to my BCM 16" middy, and more recently to an Arsenal SAM7r. My perspective is simple:
My interest in shooting is not a passing phase that I'm going to suddenly lose, so it's better to buy the right platform the first time. Sure, I could have spent less than I did on my BCM and bought a lower quality rifle (same with the Arsenal), but I'm pretty sure I'd regret it. In 5 years, I will not be kicking myself wondering "why didn't I spend a couple hundred less on a junkier rifle??".
But I'm damned sure I'd be kicking myself if I had.
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PSA 16'' PA-15 HF SS12G2 Carbine
Ok... I would like to know where this rifle is lacking compared to a Colt ,BCM or DD. A simple stock/grip upgrade and a trigger spring job ( just because I like a 4-5 lb trigger YMMV) and what is the advantage the other rifles have over this one?Quote:
http://palmettostatearmory.com/media...orailrifle.jpg
$1059
Quick Overview
16" barrel length
5.56 Nato Chamber
1 in 7" twist
"Machine Gun Steel" barrel
Extra thick Chrome lined barrel
Forged upper and lower
12" Midwest Industries SSG2 Free Float Rail
Aimpoint PRO Optic
D&H 30 round Magazine (where allowed by law)
Lock
Details
Finally a complete rifle ready to go with a quality optic for one low price. Our PA-15 HF SS12G2 Carbine starts with one of our Premium chrome-lined Mil-spec steel barrels in the modified A2 profile, mated to our forged aluminum upper, and finished off with a Midwest Industries SS12G2 12" lightweight free float rail, low profile gas block and A2 Flash hider. The forged lower is built with our 6 position Mil-spec size buffer tube and stock, Standard PSA lower parts kit with A2 grip and aluminum trigger guard. It comes with one 30 Round D&H Magazine (where allowed by law) so all you have to provide is the ammo to start having fun.
Barrel: 16" chrome lined Hammer forged proprietary chrome moly vanadium barrel, referred to as "machine gun steel" by virtue of its use in M240 and 249 weapons by the Military. In addition, the special chrome process allows for a chrome lining almost twice as thick as a standard M16. Chambered in 5.56 NATO, with a 1/7 twist, M4 barrel extension, and a mid-length gas system. Modified A2 style profile is phosphate coated to mil-specs, and is High Pressure tested, and Magnetic Particle inspected, to ensure quality and dependability. Barrel is finished off with a Midwest industries SSG2 12" Lightweight free float rail, low profile gas block, and A2 flash hider.
Upper: Forged 7075-T6 A3 AR upper is made to MIL-SPECS and hard coat anodized black for durability. Featuring machined T marks, and a mil-spec finish. These uppers are made for us right here in the USA by a mil-spec manufacturer, and are marked with the Palmetto State Armory logo on the left side, up front, just below the rail.
Bolt: Bolt is made of Mil-spec Carpenter 158 steel, Shot peened, and MPI. Gas key is secured with grade 8 fasteners and staked per mil-spec. Bolt carrier is parkerized outside, chrome lined inside, and laser engraved with the Palmetto State Armory logo.
Lower: These forged lowers are quality made using 7075-T6 aluminum and are marked "MULTI" for caliber. Finish is Black Hardcoat Anodize per MIL-8625 Type 3 class 2. Mil-spec sized buffer tube is forged of 7075 aluminum, is dry film lube coated on the inside, has 6 adjustment positions, is finished with an M4 stock and has a staked castle nut. The standard PSA combat trigger has a smooth pull and clean break.
I have fired many a Colt in my career, a few Spikes Tactical, a few DD, and a few PSA builds...etc. The PSA's were comparable in fit and finish and the component quality is on par with any quality basic rifle. IMO this package is very hard to beat for a quality basic AR and it comes with a high grade optic to boot.
Start getting onto KAC, LMT, Larue, Noveske and you start to see a difference in the details.. cream of the crop pretty with some design improvements but you will also pay 2-3x as much.