colt titanium firing pin on the way for my colt 1911 govt 80
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colt titanium firing pin on the way for my colt 1911 govt 80
This place is getting more and more like TOS every day :(
I hate to break it to you, but a titanium anything isn't going to give you an advantage over the same steel part in a 1911. For the amount of money you're going to spend, there is no corresponding gain in anything.
In a 1911 without the firing pin block, a titanium firing pin might(not definitely) be less likely to cause a negligent discharge when dropping the weapon--because it weighs less than steel and thus has less inertia to overcome the firing pin spring. Play with your new pin. It may work well for you but the speed difference will be negligible. The experts claim that the ti pins are more likely to break or chip.
What's the reason for having or wanting to go with Ti for a pin?
It might be sort of interesting to take a 1911 - say an Heirloom Precision or a mint WWI collector piece - and put an extra power firing pin spring in it, load it with a piece of brass with a primer and no bullet or powder charge and drop it ten or twenty times nose first onto concrete, then do it again with a titanium firing pin, and see which is more effective at preventing ADs.
Obviously I'd really do it with a $200 norinco. I just wanted to see if I could make everybody's testicles actually physically retract into their abdomens with that suggestion.
To the OP, it's an issue of physics, nothing more. AFAIK the titanium parts available for the 1911 are the firing pin, hammer strut, and mainspring plunger. There might be a titanium 80 series firing pin plunger, but right now I don't remember. The issue is that once the primer goes off and the bullet starts it's way down the barrel, there is nothing you can do to alter the point of impact. The manufacturers all claim that you will reduce the lock time by 50% or some such number, but in reality the amount of time you 'save' doesn't have any effect on the flight of the bullet.
Where titanium does come into play is in pistols like the S&W 340PD. You can shave enough weight to the point where a pocket pistol weighs 13 ounces unloaded. Caspian used to makes a titanium 1911 frame that cut the weight of a full sized 1911 down to about 25 ounces.
Titanium 1911 internals are like full length guide rods, they are the answer to a question no one asked.
Wow, harsh responses to the OP.
Drake of Drakes's Gun Works did do some drop testing and in his test the steel FP was more likely to discharge when the pistol was dropped on the muzzle.
http://drakesgunworks.com/Drop_Testing.html
Short story is that the steel FP discharged regularly at 4 ft drop height onto concrete. The titanium FP went off intermittently at 6 ft. So there seems there might be some advantage of having a titanium firing pin.
There was a thread on Louder than Words, 1911Pro, or 1911forum if I recall where Drake chronicled his experience.
I remember it but not well. I have no doubt the lower mass FP would be more resistant to drop fires...although I wonder if it would be any better than a standard pin with an extra power FP spring.
Sorry...I'm used to it up here.
https://www.canadaammo.com/product/d...ds-combo-deal/
No shipping to the US, unfortunately.
I like to use 20lb mainsprings so I use steel firing pins.
The first thing I do to a Springfield is toss the titanium pin with a steel and put in a 20lb mainspring.
i guess i could use the money on something else. based on all the responses and some additional research, i decided to cancelled the order. thanks guys
As a long time 1911 shooter, I was appalled at discovery that my new EMP had a titanium firing pin. I quickly fitted a steel Ed Brown pin (had to be shortened of course), and changed out the 400 pound mainspring to a 19 or 20. The idea of a titanium firing pin in an inertia firing system seems absurd to me.
If you remain concerned about the lack of a drop safety, you could certainly increase the strength of the firing pin spring. It's cheap and exactly as easy to do as swapping the firing pin.
Wait a minute - did you say series 80?
In that case, just spend the money on ammo.
im looking for a magwell now. any suggestions?
http://www.brownells.com/handgun-par...zz%20ALEXANDER
http://www.brownells.com/handgun-par...ILSON%20COMBAT
These would be my two choices to look at first unless I'm missing the question. Good call on cancelling the firing pin. I doubt its the end of the world to have one, but it seems fairly unnecessary.
what about the wilson combat clip-on style.
Look into Stan Chen's magwell; does not add width or length if that matters to you.
http://store.chencustom.com/Chen_Magwell_Suite_s/23.htm
The Chen is nice but a pain for most people to fit; the standard for most non-gunsmith situations is the Smith and Alexander and it works well.
I'm trying to figure out what was so funny about williejc's post.... im not trying to be an ass, just really wondering.
The testing done (referred to in earlier post) showed the titanium fp to cause a discharge from a higher drop than the steel one. Now whats bad about that? Or you could go samuse's route just as easily.
Im still wondering why all the hate for the titanium firing pin? Is it cost? Or mall ninja-ness? I have titanium hinderers and striders... so obviously im a fan lol.
Honestly, this is not Twitter. If you bought a new part for a 1911, that's nice. If you want to write a detailed thread about the choice you made when you built up a 1911 and how those choices worked out, that would be interesting reading.
But the questions you asked in this thread have been discussed in others. We have lots of threads that you might want to read, and then make inquiries.