Best all around scope for all around ar.

Thanks for the quick replies. Has anyone used the bushnell tactical elite 1-8?

The problem with most of the variables is the BULK. They're more versatile than an ACOG, but I can't stand the bulk unless I'm going to mount a Bipod on it and know that it's going to be a dedicated SPRish type gun.

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Originally Posted by markm

The problem with most of the variables is the BULK. They're more versatile than an ACOG, but I can't stand the bulk unless I'm going to mount a Bipod on it and know that it's going to be a dedicated SPRish type gun.

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Same here. I put a TR24 on my featherweight ELW/KMR and yecch. The Ta33 3x ACOG is now my preference there. It's more center of balance than total weight. The 1-4 on a heavier gun feels okay. On the light one it feels like Rover wants to roll over for a belly scratch. My next one-by variable will have to have more top end to make the bulk acceptable.

I find the performance gain with a decent 1-4/1-6 to be worth the weight (not that I have tried them all).
The Bushnell 1-6.5x is pretty decent, but I only like it in SFP.
The Leupy VX-6 1-6x is good, but has a very basic reticle.
The Leupy Mk6 1-6x is hard to beat for overall tactical use. I'm not a huge fan of BDCs, but the CMR-W is the best of the breed. Alternately, the TMR-D works pretty well.
The USO 1-4 and 1.5-6 are decent. I have not heard of issuese with them. I was a big fan of the 1-4 DFP, but you have to find them on the secondary market.

Overall though, the absolute "best" is the Leupold Mk8 1.1-8x. It is heavy, bulky, and expensive, but it is the best piece of glass for a dual-role 7.62 carbine. This, of course, assumes an H-27D reticle. I would not put the Mk8 on any 5.56 gun.
The USO 1-8 is very close to the Leupy, and I think it fits 5.56 a little better.

The GenII Vortex is ok, if you are down with the reticle and adjustment values.

I would recommend against the ACOG/RMR combo. It's a decent solution for guys that get COGs issued, but that's about it.

Failure2stop, what's your thoughts on vcog vs the mk6 for a 5.56 rifle? I imagine you have used them all in your line of work. Thanks for your knowledge.

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This always makes me laugh a little.
When has anyone seen one actually sold other than demo units?

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Dumb question, but why is it that way. Is it just the price tag or some other reason?

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Failure2stop, what's your thoughts on vcog vs the mk6 for a 5.56 rifle?

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Not Failure... but have you seen the price on that VCOG? Wow! Not apples to apples... but you can get a FFP Nightforce for cheaper. I was flipping through the Brownell's AR mini catalog.. (luckily while on the toilet) and saw the retail price on that thing. ;)

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Dumb question, but why is it that way. Is it just the price tag or some other reason?

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Because as of the last I heard they haven't gone into production.

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I am guessing, since you are building on an 18" upper you are going to want something that reaches out as far as magnification goes?

How much do you value 1x and an RDS-type optic? Do you need an illuminate reticle?




Mind citing the reports?

Not putting you on the spot, I am just curious as I have not read of any issues.

I have an SR8C I'm testing and while I have not put an exorbitant amount of time on the optic it is a pretty solid optic from having handled other optics in the range.

http://i.imgur.com/GZZloiW.jpg

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Sorry, I'm going from memory of threads over the years and I don't save them. The last one dealt with distortion issues someone had with their sr8c. There have been a few on LF over the years as well.

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Sorry, I'm going from memory of threads over the years and I don't save them. I thought you had posted in all of the threads here on M4c that I recall. The last one dealt with distortion issues someone had with their sr8c. There have been a few on LF over the years as well.

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I normally search for info on the optic because I want to run it into the ground if I can (not from physical abuse, but from use on a rifle) and I do not recall any of those posts in the last few months. I'll be putting this thing through its paces in Feb with F2S, so I'll post up a review then.