Originally Posted by
Naphtali
Separate topic - Steyr, I checked ZQ's site and MKE's site (which is mostly in Turkish) and I don't see anything about the manufacturing location or the quality of the pistols. It also looks like none of those pistols are available in the U.S., though the Z-5p is evidently going to be the first model released in the near future. What's the source on where it's made, and separately, what's the source on the quality / reliability? When the Vector 45 hadn't been released, you wouldn't have known all of the shortcoming that it would ultimately have. On paper it was basically perfect, and won the Discovery Channel's best SMG on Ultimate Weapons. But it's a sucky personal defense weapon for several critical reasons.
But if ZQ / MKE have the quality you say, their SBR's are the only thing that I might prefer over the suppressed .223 SBR route, due to its extremely short length, and JHPs should work properly in those barrel lengths.