Need a longer throw weapon light...

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03-09-15, 14:41
ChaseN

I think the TLR-1 HP is the closest thing you're going to get out of the box

http://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-TL.../dp/B007S84ZYO

Streamlight claims 429 meters which would well exceed your 400 yard requirement. Never used one but I am very impressed with my TLR-1 HL.
03-09-15, 14:54
Adrenaline_6

Candela or Kcd is what determines throw.

The TLR-1HP is rated at 46,000 candela or 46 Kcd.

The Armytek Predator Pro will get you 51 Kcd. It is a good light, but the beam is narrow @10 degrees with very little spill. It is rated out to 450M.

For comparison, the S200c2VN I have is +150 Kcd. It has a nice halo around it for spill and the tint is superior for color rendition.
03-10-15, 07:34
Shao

Get someone to mod a light with an aspheric lens on it. I have a 8 year old Tiablo A9 with aspheric on it that still out-throws any of my modern lights.
03-10-15, 09:50
Adrenaline_6

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Originally Posted by Shao

Get someone to mod a light with an aspheric lens on it. I have a 8 year old Tiablo A9 with aspheric on it that still out-throws any of my modern lights.

Ask and you shall receive. This modded Nightmaster throws 204KcD!

http://www.onestopthrowshop.com/prod...9&categoryId=3

Aspherics are great if all you want is all throw with no spill. Which LED did your T9 have? Even if you have the Tiablo A9 with the XR-E R2 LED, you got about 48-60 Kcd max.
03-10-15, 10:08
Shao

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6

Ask and you shall receive. This modded Nightmaster throws 204KcD!

http://www.onestopthrowshop.com/prod...9&categoryId=3

Aspherics are great if all you want is all throw with no spill. Which LED did your T9 have? Even if you have the Tiablo A9 with the XR-E R2 LED, you got about 48-60 Kcd max.

Wow, I'm behind. Those are impressive throw numbers. The Tiablo was king when it came out. That was... quite awhile ago though. Thanks for the link!

As an aside: people everywhere seem to think that raw lumen output = throw - not so. The Surefire Ultra Lights and all of these 500-600 lumen lights that are coming out use XM-L LEDs with a huge die. You'll get tons of spill but little throw. You're going to need a light pushing a small die LED to its limits with either an aspheric setup or a very deep and large reflector to reach 400 yards with any usability.
03-10-15, 11:01
Adrenaline_6

Not a problem...always willing to help out.

Yes, lumen numbers are great, but if your dividing them over a broader area, it dissipates quickly the farther it travels. It is hard for people to grasp that sometimes. I just use a flood light versus a laser analogy. The laser has a lot less lumens, but is concentrated, so it goes farther than the flood light does...but the lasewr only lights up a small area versus the flood light lights up the whole background. Finding a good balance is the challenge.

The modded S200cVN I got from Vinh is incredible. Its an XML die, but is dedomed for better throw and it is pushing 5.5 Amps. It throws 150Kcd due to brute force and because Vinh sets the reflector distance by hand, it has the perfect beam, A very bright tight spot beam with a bright halo around it for a very useable spill.

Beamshots from the S200cVN sale thread...(These are not mine):

http://s42.photobucket.com/user/engi...6292e.jpg.html

http://s42.photobucket.com/user/engi...81479.jpg.html
03-10-15, 19:46
simonsez

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Originally Posted by LSK

Elzetta Bravo, built like a tank. If you have skunks around you might want to keep the K9 on leash after dark. Mine has been sprayed three times, it is not a fun experience.

Ugh...I was thankful that it was only close by in the air and his hair didn't smell the next day!
03-10-15, 19:50
simonsez

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6

You will have to go with a custom modded light. I have an Eagletac S200C2 that has been modded by a guy that is a well known modder on the candlepower forums. He does great work. This light is an absolute beast of a thrower. He will change out the LED to either an XML2 U3 or XPG2, dedome it, and mount it to copper for better heat dissipation....whatever you decide.

The options I have include the new 4 mode driver that always starts off on High (SL Driver), the PDC (perfect tint) upgrade and the V54 engraving. Just email Vinh and let him know what you want. Tell him that Adrenaline_6 (same nickname on other forum) ordered a S200cVN from him on November 11 and it was for a S200cVN with the 5.5 A, 4 mode 1700 lumen driver. He will know what you are talking about. Also, make sure to let him know this will also be mounted on a weapon. He will reinforce the necessary internals as part of the mod.

All lights from him are lifetime guaranteed and if not a warrantee issue, will fix them for just parts and shipping if needed. He will also upgrade them to a newer technology LED, driver, etc if it comes along if you just let him know and charge you for the parts and shipping. Great guy to deal with. This was my first light from him and it won't be my last. I even payed him with the paypal gift option without worry. He's been doing work there for a long time. He mods amazing lights.

Make sure you get a charger for the 18650 lithium cells and also make sure you get the right cells that can handle that high amp continuous discharge rate. You can order them online or get them from Vinh with the light. You CANNOT put CR123's in this light!

If all you have messed with are Surefires, Elzettas, Predators this light will absolutely destroy anything you have ever seen. You will be amazed. You can literally temporarily blind someone in the daytime with their eyelids shut. Too much for a small room, but what you are looking to do is perfect.

Light link: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...aby-Throw-King

Link for all his lights: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...V54-Light-List

Thanks for the info! I will check into this. I've been on the site recently and most of the technology jargon might as well be in French for me!
03-10-15, 21:37
Adrenaline_6

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Originally Posted by simonsez

Thanks for the info! I will check into this. I've been on the site recently and most of the technology jargon might as well be in French for me!

I can translate for you. Just ask. I'm happy to educate and help out.
03-10-15, 21:45
kevN

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Originally Posted by ChaseN

I think the TLR-1 HP is the closest thing you're going to get out of the box

http://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-TL.../dp/B007S84ZYO

Streamlight claims 429 meters which would well exceed your 400 yard requirement. Never used one but I am very impressed with my TLR-1 HL.

I saw this light on Super Dave Harrington's carbine last year and it does have intense throw. No one was running an m600 that night to compare but it made my p2x Fury look silly at 100yds.

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