http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-rental-range/
sometimes in excess of 200,000 rounds through commercially available and full auto ARs
good read....
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-rental-range/
sometimes in excess of 200,000 rounds through commercially available and full auto ARs
good read....
I appreciate the class to come out and say 'we weren't following manufacturer directions, so we're not going to name names. We broke them, they didn't work for us at our firing and maintenance schedule'.
The bolts being the first failure point, to the point where the lugs deforming over time and getting out of headspace range is happening concurrently with lugs start to shear and break is actually pretty cool to think about - the fact that bolts are happily going 20k rounds is neat.
I am curious what the extractor setups they favor are - my guess with running DD/LMT BCG's would be that those extractors run fine (and running exclusively factory new brass ammunition seems to help a ton).
I've been following that for a couple of months, quite interesting.
Interesting lube comments were made. Should be quoted in the FC thread!
I wish we could know what manufacturer it was that warranted this comment
-– There is company that has an AR system that has some “parts don’t need lubrication” and that failed before the end of the first day. I don’t think some mfg’s understand that people REALLY use their weapons and when you’re rocking full-auto all day they NEED lubrication. My armorers and RSO’s were laughing when it seized up because we knew there was NO way it would last on our range.
Anderson maybe? Home of the world's NO LUBE AR as they proudly proclaim.
http://www.andersonrifles.com
To be fair I've used several of their stripped lowers and been happy. But to not lube an AR? Come on now.
That was definitely a good read. Love to read no BS observations based on serious hands on experience. Thanks for sharing.
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There's a lot more info and specific details on the epic threads on TOS. Including AR, AK, and pistol specific threads. Not sure how applicable full auto all the time is to real world applications though. I understand the need for worst case testing but it's somewhat analogous to reliability testing cars by redlining them on a racetrack until destruction.
Nice to know about USGI mags.
I mostly train and go to work with Pmags but have a "few" USGI mags set aside for a rainy day.