Folding Stock Adapter Kit for AR15, can fire repeatedly while stock is folded
I am soliciting feed back on AR 15 after market product created by Dead Foot Arms. The product is a Folding stock adapter kit for any AR15 platform which provides user with semi automatic fire capability while stock is either folded or deployed. I am going to list some highlights below along with some responses to feedback received thus far. We are very interested in any initial thoughts or perspective you might have, advice, questions, etc. Full transparency, I do not own the company but when I returned from Afghanistan I was in the same unit with the guy that started the business. I have no ownership, but I do want to see it succeed. This is not an advertisement or product push, I would like to hear legitimate concerns or questions/comments and start a dialogue that can enhance the product and our efforts to bring it to market. Obviously any positive feedback would be well received too.
Price: We are selling it online and taking pre-orders for $499. Dealers can purchase as well with a different structure via the "dealer link" on the website.
Competition: We believe there is demand for folding stock AR15 within the market. Some products that currently meet this demand, such as the COLT SCW, are sold as entire rifles. Another competitor has had considerable success selling a folding stock adapter kit but it only allows user to fire rifle one time while stock is folded (sells for under $300). Another company sells a kit that provides a retractable stock and allows user to fire stock repeatedly while stock is fully collapsed (also sells for $499). Both of these products create an overall length of rifle that is a couple of inches longer than our product. We believe the demand for folding stock capability within the market is far greater than the desire for a retractable stock.
Details / How it Works: Among other utilizations, the product was primarily designed to provide low profile mobility of AR rifles, close quarter combat, and ease of carry for military and law enforcement personnel. It is a short pistol tube with dual springs and a folding mechanism that can be utilized with any standard carbine stock. It works with direct impingement for any length of gas system. With a 16 inch barrel, the rifle is reduced to 26.5 inches when stock is folded, half a foot shorter than a fully collapsed standard stock. As you may know, when the collapsible stock was first introduced to the market it too was 6 inches shorter than the previously standard carbine stock. The bolt carrier group provided is a modified version that comes from one of the largest AR15 bolt carrier group manufacturers. The system attaches only to the lower receiver, allowing the use of any upper receiver of any caliber and any barrel length combination. 1 patent received and 2 patents pending.
Length of Pull: The length of pull is shortened about 1.5 inches for users who prefer a shooting position with a fully collapsed stock (33”). Typically these would be users that have shorter than average arms, or potentially individuals in cold weather gear or heavy body armor. For an average user utilizing an average shooting position there is no change in length of pull if a collapsible stock is in the middle positions. That said and based on recent feedback, the company is going to likely also sell a shorter buttstock that can provide user with the same length of pull as an M4, if desired. This would put the length of pull back to "standard", which some people would prefer. We will give them the option.
Manufacturing: First production run will begin in a few weeks for 200 parts, 15 of which have already been selected to be distributed to particular reviewers and retailers. That means 185 will be available for market (not accounting for pre-orders already received). Shipment planned for February 1st, 2016. Pre-orders began October 15th.
Reviews: We have two scheduled reviews to take place in November from separate noteworthy industry professionals which they will post online. Once that happens I will update this thread with links to the reviews.
In the meantime, below is a link to the video and also link to the website. Additional videos are being edited and will be uploaded once complete.
Video link:
https://www.facebook.com/Deadfootarms
Website:
http://www.deadfootarms.com/