This is a pretty great watch.
https://youtu.be/eQYV96hHoGU
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This is a pretty great watch.
https://youtu.be/eQYV96hHoGU
Good stuff.
AKOU are good guys in the AK world, and I'm glad they're having good experiences with BCM.
Having an optic on the gun would have likely prevented it from rolling over and getting more damage, but it's good to see he could still make a practical shot after the damage.
And FYI, stay out of the comment section. There's some stupid going around.
thanks for sharing. Looks like the rifle did quite well. I wouldn't use the kmr for a legit torture test. If they had a DD RIS II or a DD Lite III on there, there would be no damage to speak of. Function seemed solid.
^KMR-A. IIRC, Paul from BCM posted that the Alpha did slightly better than the standard KMR in their testing.
Why? The whole point to torture test something is to see what it can handle. The KMR has had nearly no public torture testing.
This test is great, because it shows that, despite damage that we all expect, the rifle's gas tube was protected and the rifle still functioned. And as a bonus, he got a first round hit at-range.
I understand the appeal of a handguard that can take anything without a scratch, but sometimes ultimate durability is lower on the list than weight or profile for those of us in IED-free areas. And as we see here, the KMR can still let you get the job done if you crush it.
totally fair point, inebriated. I just meant in terms of what your typical hard use AR is capable of, testing a rifle with a kmr isn't a great indicator of what you're going to get. Those rails are awesome for fun guns and medium use guns, but I would rather something like a Lite III on there for a hard use gun. But you're right, its great to see what the kmr is capable of sustaining and what it isn't capable of sustaining.
Guys, it was KMR-A rail. Sorry for being little sloppy in that video and i have missed info update on it.
Interesting to watch, they were very excited to find that it held zero with a bent rail.
Nother good recent thread of someone beating up an AR, and it handling it like a champ.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1118901
They ain't delicate flowers.
did not have anything nice to say about Colt.
They did love the BCM AR
Look, Colt M4 is my service weapon, i'm not going to "poop" on them. Paul was just frustrated with his experiences with Colts.
I'm just amazed at Colt that they are not pushing themselves more into the civilian market and kind of live off from Gov contracts and then complain about dying out business...there is no reason why they should be in financial position as they are right now (actually they got saved again), but you get the point.
Rob,
A question, you mentioned that you were attempting to run the reciever over and that you weren't intentionaly aiming for the rail. What happens to an AK when you run over the barrell and gas tube/piston assembly? Will damage to the piston and gas tube take out the AK?
Thanks for doing the review.
Not really, if the gas tube is "trapped" in wood or good rail "cage" it will survive. Also, please remember that even if you would run over the gas tube on AK, because of the geometry how this rifle is "sitting" on the ground, gas tube wouldn't take that much damage - rear sight post would be taking all the pressure. Now, i have seen people with their AK's gas tubes smashed - it can happen of course, but even then, hopefully you can remove that broken tube and keep shooting your rifle. Most likely piston will be hitting walls of gas block and not going all the way back in, but you can manage to operate that rifle. I have shot AKs without recoil springs, tubes, dust covers and etc.
Thanks Rob. Much apreciated. did you replace the handguard on that rifle or did you keep it as is?
thanks again Rob.
Great video, cant wait for more tests. Did you find the pmags withstood more abuse than than the USGI mags?
Rob Ski, you never disappoint... I and just about everybody else could never run over one of our BCM rifles, so we get YOU to do it for us!
I think you mean fail to impress, or never dissapoint
I have some simple and good ideas for this. Interestingly enough, most magazine failures in our training classes happens when people work in prone position, move in prone, reload and etc. From Nevada desert to midwest, biggest enemy of any magazine is dirt and sand...
Does anyone know the difference in thickness between the KMR and URX4?
I was actually surprised the AR didn't break at the castle nut while doing push ups. The angle made it look like that end of the rifle was taking some weight and I know the buffer tube is probably the weakest point on the receiver.
As for the rails durability: I think the rail did great. Here's why: yea it bent- but it held zero for the most part. The attachment method is where I saw the KAC rails fail the most in the military. Having a rail loose zero is just as bad as surviving physical abuse IMO.
I'm not shocked. But, I am impressed. That's for sharing. :)
Is the KMR Alpha more durable?
The happiness at the end when the rifle held zero, hahahaha
Good stuff.
Very nice. I've run mine in classes and it hasn't failed me yet.
Came across this shot by chance... I wonder if it's real, and if it is, how it's holding up in the field.
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I think your point about durability may be important. Before I got my KMR I was very concerned about it and almost passed on it but then I got to thinking that somehow for years plastic hand guards were just fine. We seem to use Mil-Spec as the baseline standard here and I concluded that really, as long as the mounting system is good (and it is very good) and it was stronger than plastic hand guards (and it seems to be) then it was probably suitable for the serious use that, in all honesty it will probably never see but I still demand as a standard for all of my firearms. Just to show that I'm not some fan boy though, my first build has an SMR on it and that beast is confidence inspiring.
ETA: Rob, cool video. I had never seen any of yours but have been enjoying some of your others since seeing this here. Thanks.