Looks like the Russians captured a bunch of Bushy M4's from Georgia. :o
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Looks like the Russians captured a bunch of Bushy M4's from Georgia. :o
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Now they can get plagued by loose carrier keys. :D
:p Rofl!
I think this is why the Georgians lost so bad! :D
LOL Delivered by Blackwater??
So now we know what happened to the... what was it, couple of few hundred Shrubmasters that were part of that contract purchase we keep hearing about :rolleyes:
It was a diabolical plan...boobytrapped Bushys are tossing carrier keys and stovepiping cheap Wolf ammo all over greater Russia...Gotta love the CIA.... :D
I've been told that the Russians have had access to Diemacos for some time, but they still prefer the Kalashnikov. This proves that you can lead a horse to water...
I think it has been known for a while that Georgia signed a deal with Bushamster for M4geries. Yesterday I read an informal interview with an Army CPT who stated that when the SHTF the Georgians ended up reverting back to their AK's and not using the marksmanship and aimed fire principles that they were taught. I wonder if Russia is going to exploit this somehow?
LoL! @ the look on the guys face in the first pic holding the gun.
:)
Monkey models?
Quoted from somewhere else:
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"Look Comrade, a purple weapon! The Joker is making rifles for the military now."
From the way that russian was examining the AR in the first picture, it would appear that he is totally "amazed" at the sight of this strange looking weapon! :D ...like it was alien or something .... hehehe
Seriously though, I wonder why the Georgians never got around to issuing those Bushies to it's soldiers? Those ARs look brand new!
That is great! Maybe the Russians will try and use the against us and we will win without any effort. :D
What if really funny is that the BM's have 16" barrels. Apparently they (Georgia Military) have NFA laws like us.
C4
Just curious but, since these were sent to the military, would they be fully auto? Or 3 round burst? They don’t look like it to me because of where the fire selector would stop. But I’m not sure.
First, those are 14.5 inch barrels.
Second, they have a selector that rotates 180 degrees.
The second picture showed a gun with the selector in the AUTO position.
Don't everybody jump on me at the same time. How do we know that Bushmaster didn't manufacture them to US mil spec. They could if they wanted to.
Okay I'm ready, have my full armor on.
Someone here should know whether or not Bushmaster had setup their production facilities to meet the TDP. Maybe Georgia was invited to develop their own TDP?
Does Israel get Bushies?
Israel gets Colts.
Here are the new accounts;
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Russia "seizes U.S. weapons" near Georgian town
15 Aug 2008 09:27:23 GMT
Source: Reuters
MOSCOW, Aug 15 (Reuters) - Russia said on Friday its forces had seized U.S.-made weapons from a Georgian military base near the town of Senaki, but added there had been no gunfire in Georgia in the past 24 hours.
"Our forces have seized 1,728 arms in Senaki," Colonel-General Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy head of Russia's General Staff, told a news conference.
Nogovitsyn expressed fresh doubts about the nature of U.S. cargo being dispatched to Georgia. "We would like to know whether there is a humanitarian or some other kind of military cargo, but we don't have this information." (Reporting by Dmitry Zhdannikov and Conor Sweeney)
Here's another picture.Quote:
US privatises its military aid to Georgia
* Nick Paton Walsh in Tbilisi
* The Guardian,
* Tuesday January 6 2004
* Article history
The Pentagon is to privatise its military presence in Georgia by contracting a team of retired US military officers to equip and advise the former Soviet republic's crumbling military, embellishing an eastward expansion that has enraged Moscow.
After a Georgian appeal for support to the US defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, during a visit last month, a team of 20-30 private defence consultants are already in Tbilisi. Their employer, a Washington security firm, Cubic, has a three-year $15m contract with the Pentagon to support all aspects of the Georgian ministry of defence.
A senior western diplomat said: "One of the goals is to make the army units capable of seizing and defending a given objective. The consultants will work with US defence liaisons in the US Tbilisi embassy and the European command in Stuttgart." He said the programme could continue for much longer than three years.
About 60 US military trainers arrived in Georgia in the summer of 2002 to help the dilapidated military deal with the perceived threat of terrorists linked to al-Qaida hiding in the Pankisi gorge, on the border with Russian Chechnya.
The "train and equip" programme, which left the Kremlin silently fuming at a Pentagon presence on its southern border, was supposed to end this year.
Georgia has long sought a US base on its soil. "Our desire was to continue the train and equip programme, and [Mr Rumsfeld's response to our request] was this idea," Tedo Japaridze, the foreign minister, told the Guardian.
A Georgian security official said the Cubic team would also improve protection of the pipeline that will take Caspian oil from Baku to Turkey through Georgia. Georgia has already expressed its gratitude by agreeing to send 500 troops to Iraq.
The western diplomat said the US was also considering creating in Georgia a "forward operational area", where equipment and fuel could be stored, similar to support structures in the Gulf.
The two moves would combine to give Washington a "virtual base" - stored equipment and a loyal Georgian military - without the diplomatic inconvenience of setting up a permanent base in a country where Moscow already has two controversial bases.
Under an international agreement, the Russian facilities should be dismantled within three years. But Mr Japaridze said: "We have been having that discussion for five years, so it is quite surreal." The Kremlin has said it will withdraw by 2011.
The diplomat said there remained 80-100 Chechen militants in the Pankisi gorge. He said "a handful" of them were international terrorists linked to al-Qaida, and that they could move across the borders, particularly into Azerbaijan. Georgian officials have long insisted that the gorge is no longer a problem.
Meanwhile, it has emerged that President George Bush secretly wrote to Eduard Shevardnadze in the week after his resignation as Georgia's president, thanking him for his historic decision that brought a bloodless end to weeks of mass protest.
A source close to the ex-president said: "The letter was personal. It said he had made a very good choice, and that the new leaders lacked experience and could benefit from his." Mr Japaridze confirmed the letter was "personal in nature".
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Looks like they aren't the only thing being seized either.
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Russia seizes US vehicles
By John Matthew Hall and AP
Tuesday, 19 August 2008
Independent.co.uk Web
Russian soldiers today held blindfolded Georgian servicemen at gunpoint and commandeered US Humvees in a dramatic sequence of events in Poti, a key Black Sea port.
White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe stated that if Russia has seized any US military equipment in Georgia, it must return it immediately.
In Poti, on the Black Sea, Russian forces blocked access to the naval and commercial ports this morning and towed the missile boat Dioskuria, one of the navy's most sophisticated vessels, out of sight of observers. A loud explosion was heard minutes later.
Several hours later, an Associated Press photographer saw Russian trucks and armored personnel carriers leaving the port with about 20 blindfolded and handcuffed men riding on them. Port spokesman Eduard Mashevoriani said the men were Georgian soldiers.
The Russians also took with them four Humvees that were at the port awaiting shipment back to the United States after taking part in earlier US-Georgian military exercises.
The deputy head of Russia's general staff, Col.-Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn, said in Moscow that Russian forces plan to remain in Poti until a local administration is formed, but did not give further details. He also justified previous seizures of Georgian soldiers as necessary to crack down on soldiers who were "out of any kind of control ... acting without command."
A small column of Russian tanks and armored vehicles left Gori on Tuesday, and a Russian officer said they were heading back to South Ossetia and then Russia. It was the first sign of a Russian pullback of troops from Georgia.
The column, which also apparently included a mobile rocket-launcher, passed the village of Ruisi, outside Gori on the road to South Ossetia on Tuesday afternoon.
Col. Igor Konoshenkov, a Russian military officer, told The Associated Press at the scene the unit was headed for South Ossetia and, ultimately, back to Russia. He gave no timetable for when the unit would reach Russia.
Konoshenkov said it was part of the Russian pullback mandated by a cease-fire that requires both sides to return to positions held before fighting broke out Aug. 7 in South Ossetia, a separatist Georgian province with close ties to Russia.
Elsewhere, Russia they exchanged POWs with Georgia and pulled back some troops from the strategic city of Gori.
It was a day of deeply mixed messages that left the small, war-battered country full of anxiety about whether Russia was aiming for a long-term military presence in Georgia or whether it was just trying to inflict maximum damage before adhering to a EU-brokered cease-fire and troop pullout.
Maybe that thing had one in the chamber and went off while they were looking at it. WHAM!! kill a commie for mommy.Quote:
they have a selector that rotates 180 degrees.
DoD handles FMS sales. It also avoids ITAR.
don't know how or why they ended up with the bushmaster m4s.
while i was visiting some people with the IDF i did see a large number of m-16's that were not made by colt. mostly of the a1 vintage H&R, hydromatics ect.
some really old commandos & CAR's --might have been former USAF?
what i want to know is where did the PLO come up with all those M-16's???:confused:
The US has given guns and training to the PLO in the past.