WANTED: Silencerco Omega 300 Owner FeedBack
Anyone have buyers remorse? Reasons?
Also, how well does this suppress flash/night signature?
Thanks!
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WANTED: Silencerco Omega 300 Owner FeedBack
Anyone have buyers remorse? Reasons?
Also, how well does this suppress flash/night signature?
Thanks!
Light and minimal POI shifts... liked it so much bought the Blackhawk! version on closeout for 1/3 OFF of the price of the SiCo MSRP...
I do not like the design. I have continually had problems with the different pieces un threading themselves after moderate to high rates of fire. Even after ensuring they are all tightened down. I much prefer a solid 1 piece welded can. Also i hate the asr system. If you want a light 30 cal can look at Q or grab a rugged or dead air can.
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If you are looking for a can that can morph into different configurations the Omega shines. Yesterday I finally got around to putting an adjustable gas block on my old AAC 9" 300 blk. I was checking function with the Omega in direct thread and with a 51T adapter along with an older AAC SDN6. The SDN6 is a pig at 21oz but as far as tone and suppression there is no difference between the two other than weight. I also have a Sig 762tiqd and the difference in suppression and tone is night and day.
I purchased the Omega on a 41F whim and at the end of the day I wish I would have purchased another Sig. That being said it's nice to have around because of its ability to be light and small with direct thread or big and use the baffled end cap for 308 precision. In 2018 I see no reason to buy one other than its ability to change configurations. I am also slightly worried about SiCo's stability as a business as a of late. The have laid off a lot of people.
I would be looking at Q, Sig, KAC, Surefire, and Dead Air.
I should mention I’m looking at this because it’s so light in the 556 configuration and has one of the best sound suppression AFAIK
Point taken but the only other suppressor
I’ve seen that’s lighter is the griffin micro
Which others say hardly has any effect on 556
Also in comparisons I’ve seen the omega 300 on 556 beats the sandman L and S by a significant number of dB
Plus still lighter
I think the Omega is one of the most versatile cans on the market. It is as small and light as a 556 can, has just as good sound suppression, and can suppress 300WM. I leave mine in the 30 cal flat end cap configuration and forget about it. I'll probably buy a second one.
I bought one as a versatile option for ARs and hunting rifles. I’m happy with it overall but wouldn’t buy another. I don’t really use it’s modular capabilities as I’ve come to like more specific, dedicated suppressors. Knowing what I know now, I’d buy a Thunder Beast Ultra 7 for hunting/precision and a Surefires for 7.62 and 5.56 ARs. In fact, I’ll probably end up doing that anyway. Changing the configuration of the Omega is a pain, and the outer sleeve can easily come off. Mine is loose but I never remove the flat cap so it hasn’t come off.
I do like it’s light weight and size and suppression characteristics (recoil impulse, not sound). I do not like the ASR mounting system. If you get an Omega, do yourself a favor and upgrade to Dead Air Key-Mo mounts. They do add a little weight but are much more secure and user friendly.
If I were to give unsolicited advice - it's a long process so no need to rush. Do your research thoroughly and take your time.
A few ounces is not that noticable (6 or 7 is). At the end of the day you are putting almost a pound (even with the lightest cans) on the end of your gun. It's easy to get wrapped up in the numbers but it doesn't matter that much.
Tone is much more important than DB levels as is blowback. These are the things that make suppressors fun and enjoyable.
Technology makes a difference. Some cans like the m42k and the tirant are still at the top of their class DB wise but they were heavy, or hard to clean, or the mount sucks. There is a steady progression and cans keep getting better.
Most people only buy one or two cans and it's a long term or life purchase so they will always talk up their can. They will defend it to the end without ever shooting anything else. Keep that in mind as people try to convince you on what can to buy. If possible try to go to an nfa shoot where you can try out a bunch of cans to see what you like.
Try to put all your wants in a priority list (which it sounds like you already have). This allows you to quickly weed out the cans that won't fit your requirements.
I too am looking at the Omega right now...especially woth the SiCo summer deal; get a can for >800 and get an Octane 9/45 for free (minus stamp) or >700 and a Warlock or spectre for free.
Was looking at the Omega (weight and versatility) and the Chimera (suppression—haven't heard anything ablut tone though and ruggedness).
Also looking at the Sandman S and L.
There are so many good cans really right now, it makes it hard for me to decide.
I've been looking at these charts for dB comparisons which are harder to find than the other specs such as weight, length etc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=2048334335
How bad is the loosening of the Omega outer shell? Does it loosen within just a few rounds or does it take hundreds of rounds?
I am thinking the cause of loosening could be due to the different rates of expansion in the Ti Shell vs the end caps (stainless or stellite?)
Has anyone used any anti-seize on the threads to get a touch more torque to keep this suppressor from loosening yet without the danger of seizing the components?
I love mine, yes as I own two. Running one in the 30 cal config and the other in 5.56. No issues at all, 6.5 creed, 300 Black, 5.56
Possibly if i had to have a dedicated can for a bolt gun I may have went a different route. I believe it is the best do all can.
That has been my experience over a couple of thousand rounds. Still feels handy enough on a 10.5" 5.56 barrel.
Can't say I've had this problem.
I have one can so my comments should taken with that in mind but I would agree on the best do it all can comment. I use it on 308 and 7mm Rem Mag bolt guns. It does an outstanding job on muzzle rise and recoil.
I have one.
After the many reports of failed ASR mounts I sold my muzzle devices and went to the omega key-mo adaptor for dead air devices. But I used my dead air can more than my omega so now the omega is direct thread only duty.
Dead air is more durable. Just look at the materials to compare.
Durability, blowback and single-motion attachment are priorities for me, especially for any barrel tucked in a rail. Dead air does that. Barrel length minimum is next. Dead air has no minimum. Omega is 10.5 for 556 and longer for 308. While it meets the most common configurations, it doesn’t do them all. And you never know what you may get into in the future as far as rifles go.
Dead air and SiCo have been equally good CS.
You have to be happy with your decision. So pick what you want.
I have an Omega and I’m satisfied with it. It suppressed well on my 6.5 bolt gun and actually tightened my groups up.
I too have upgraded to the dead air Key-Mo but honestly that was just because it was cheap for me.
I wouldn’t hesitate to buy the Omega again but I would look at the dead air cans hard though. I would be happy with either one.
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What are these ASR issues people referring to??
I have the Omega 7.62, and a Spec War 7.62. Both with the ASR mounts.
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I have to watch anyone handling my cans like a hawk; I've seen several people install ASR stuff incorrectly. To be fair, it's possible to do with any mount featuring a rotating collar.
My bigger beef with the can is that it does not appear to hold up the way you'd expect - I question its longevity with the sorts of uses you'd expect on a semi SBR within its barrel length restrictions. I have owned cans for well over a decade now, and my Omega has (1) the lowest round count and (2) the most visible erosion by far.
It's light and quiet, I'll give it that.
I concur.
I like mine just fine. I currently use it almost exclusively on a 20" 5.56 precision upper. The rifle is more accurate with it on. I haven't had any ASR issues. It works fine and I'm happy with it.
I did have the outer sleeve come loose. I sent it in and got it back quickly. It hasn't happened again.
The one thing that does bother me is the visible, deep erosion on the blast baffle after very few rounds. When I first got it I had used it on a 5.56 10.5" and 16" barrel and a handful of rounds on a Sig 556R (16", 7.62x39). Grand total maybe 2-300 rounds and the erosion was very obvious. I've since used it only on barrels 16" or greater and I started using ASR brakes vs flash hiders due to the sacrificial baffle concept. I could see the pattern of the flash hider tines in the erosion on the blast baffle. I don't feel like the erosion has increased since then. I have maybe 2000-2500 rounds on the can at this point. By contrast I have a Specwar 556K that I use exclusively on a 10.5" sbr and it looks brand new with a similar round count. I find this odd since the Omega has a stellite blast baffle just like the Specwar.
I have seen several people talk about the “erosion” they they start scraping the carbon of to reveal it’s not erosion.
I’m not worried about it as SiCo I’m sore has put a million rounds through an Omega without fail.
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I agree that that happens. I thought it was carbon at first too. In my case it is in fact erosion.
There's plenty of carbon on the walls and further down the baffle. The rough eroded areas are lower than the flat bare metal areas of the front of the baffle.
I'm not worried about it since it doesn't seem to be getting worse very quickly if at all with my current usage. And it's a suppressor. It's not going to last forever. And if it got really bad some day after Xthousands of rounds I'm sure Sico would help me out, assuming they're still around.
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That's what mine looks like, though less severe (didn't use it on any 10" barrels). The subsequent baffles also don't look very happy. I'm going to a brake soon for the SBR's and expect that to sort it out.
I don't doubt SiCo's customer service, but I'd rather not have to use it some day.
can you guys post pics of this erosion ?