Roger Stone Arrested

Uhm,

So does anybody else realize that Mueller just proved that there was no Trump-Russia Collusion?

All of these charges revolve around Stone and the Trump campaign trying to figure out what was going to happen AFTER the Podesta emails were released.

Why would Trump need Stone to find that out if he was 'colluding' with the Russians? He'd have a channel to just directly get that info- or it wasn't very good collusion if the Russians didn't give a heads up to Trump about the material.

It's over. No collusion. Mueller has acknowledged it in court.

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Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

How else to kick off a show trial....

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In the CCCP they were referred to as Moscow Trials.

And the mainstream media networks that were informed of the "pre-dawn raid" are the modern day equivalent to the CCCP's Department for Agitation and Propaganda.

I don't know what the FBI's criteria is for mobilizing a SWAT team, but after 30 years of LE and SWAT, this would be accomplished with a couple suits, maybe one uniformed presence and the post warrant service forensics team.

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Originally Posted by mark5pt56

I don't know what the FBI's criteria is for mobilizing a SWAT team, but after 30 years of LE and SWAT, this would be accomplished with a couple suits, maybe one uniformed presence and the post warrant service forensics team.

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(sarcasm)At least no one got horiuchi'ed this time. (/sarcasm)

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Originally Posted by mark5pt56

I don't know what the FBI's criteria is for mobilizing a SWAT team, but after 30 years of LE and SWAT, this would be accomplished with a couple suits, maybe one uniformed presence and the post warrant service forensics team.

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1. Because Pelosi and Schumer say so.
2. If it will look great on CNN and support the Leftist agenda.

Good point, if he was so dangerous, cnn camera man would be in danger, he went on to say, he doesn't own a firearm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuAO...ature=youtu.be



EDIT: rcvd the following from a friend who is a retired FBI agent. My retired work associates think the arrest was over the top, unnecessary, and increased the risk of danger to Stone, the FBI Agents, and the people in his neighborhood. All those “assault weapons” loaded and being handled substantially increased the risk of someone getting shot. The FBI had thousands, if not tens of thousands of rounds on scene. Why necessary? Stone had a history of responding to Mueller for interviews and GJ testimony. There was no evidence in Stone’s house that might be destroyed. It was unnecessary and I wonder who in their right mind approved that arrest plan. Since it was a SWAT deployment, the SAC or ASAC was required to be on-scene. Who is running the FBI?

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Originally Posted by mark5pt56

I don't know what the FBI's criteria is for mobilizing a SWAT team, but after 30 years of LE and SWAT, this would be accomplished with a couple suits, maybe one uniformed presence and the post warrant service forensics team.

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Between the CNN crew being there and the way over the top tac team, that will come back to bite them in the ass I suspect. I don't know anything about the guy, but we all know he was neither a flight risk or a violence risk.

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Originally Posted by platoonDaddy

Good point, if he was so dangerous, cnn camera man would be in danger, he went on to say, he doesn't own a firearm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuAOcLZrQT4&feature=youtu.be



EDIT: rcvd the following from a friend who is a retired FBI agent. My retired work associates think the arrest was over the top, unnecessary, and increased the risk of danger to Stone, the FBI Agents, and the people in his neighborhood. All those “assault weapons” loaded and being handled substantially increased the risk of someone getting shot. The FBI had thousands, if not tens of thousands of rounds on scene. Why necessary? Stone had a history of responding to Mueller for interviews and GJ testimony. There was no evidence in Stone’s house that might be destroyed. It was unnecessary and I wonder who in their right mind approved that arrest plan. Since it was a SWAT deployment, the SAC or ASAC was required to be on-scene. Who is running the FBI?

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Good interview. I don't know much about this guy but he mentioned Jones as a supporter and pal, and that drops his creds in my view by many points. That's irrelevant to that ridiculous raid of course, but I wanted to like the guy, but Jones is walking dog doo of a human.

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Originally Posted by WillBrink

Good interview. I don't know much about this guy but he mentioned Jones as a supporter and pal, and that drops his creds in my view by many points. That's irrelevant to that ridiculous raid of course, but I wanted to like the guy, but Jones is walking dog doo of a human.

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I guess you need to stay loyal to the people that have supported you. Jones is such a crap shoot.

The attack on his house is especially discredited by the fact that the judge had him sign a bond to get out. I don't think it would matter, but it would be nice to get some kind of admonishment from some judge about that tactic. Stone kind of drove a wedge between the FBI field guys and architects of his arrest.

Does anyone really get their knickers in a bunch over someone lying to congress? Kind of like pouring bottled water into the ocean.

Based on the video, didn't appear to be any pre planning which showed in the cluster of execution. If true that there was no evidence to secure and recover, then with his history of cooperation, etc. a call and report time to the local field office would have solved this.