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Honestly, I don’t think he has the power to declare a national emergency for this wall. I think this is going to get blocked by the courts, and then It’ll set a precedent that will show that Pelosi and them can’t do this either for guns.
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He shouldn't be able to declare bumpstocks illegal in the first place not to mention that being compounded by not compensating owners.Quote:
Originally Posted by JulyAZ
You’re 100% correct, but there’s a difference here.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsbhike
The bump stocks need to be challenged in court. Most of us lowly ****s have neither the time or money to challenge the federal government. And no government body is going to do it for us.
The DNC and GOP have virtually unlimited funding to take this to court. I’m sure the DNC lawyers have been gearing up for this move for months. This wall will be blocked, and like I said it will sent the precedent for limitations on Emergency declarations as well.
The United States Code (Title 42, Chapter 68, Subchapter I, §5122), now defines emergency and major disaster as follows:
"Emergency means any occasion or instance for which, in the determination of the President, Federal assistance is needed to supplement State and local efforts and capabilities to save lives and to protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in any part of the United States.
"Major disaster means any natural catastrophe (including any hurricane, tornado, storm, high water, wind-driven water, tidal wave, tsunami, earthquake, volcanic eruption, landslide, mudslide, snowstorm, or drought), or, regardless of cause, any fire, flood, or explosion, in any part of the United States, which in the determination of the President causes damage of sufficient severity and magnitude to warrant major disaster assistance under this chapter to supplement the efforts and available resources of States, local governments, and disaster relief organizations in alleviating the damage, loss, hardship, or suffering caused thereby
http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictiona...Emergency.aspx
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The wall is something that probably should be getting done while bumpstock bans and any other anti 2nd amendment actions shouldn't be. We get lots of that.
If there's a way to misuse the law while avoiding any accountability for not using it as it should be used, you know the pols are going to do exactly that. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jsbhike
It will definitely get blocked by the courts, regardless if he has the power or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by JulyAZ
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How much is in the discretionary budgets of the various executive controlled agencies? He has oversight of all those agencies, via their chief execs. Change their mandate and burn through the discretionary.
Here's what I hope happens:
1) The case(s) makes it to SCOTUS.
2) SCOTUS curtails EO's to almost nothing, and for a very narrow band of reasons, and provides clarity on the actual executive powers in the Constitution
2b) With these curtailed, Dems can never pull another DACA end around.
3) The government uses the funding to build parts of the "wall", and then shows some success.
4) Trump shuts the gov down again when this funding bill expires
I think it's best for all that they have stopped pretending they give a damn about 2A Rights, and show their true and fill colors. Trump seems to bring out the "best" in them, and that just exposes them for who they are and what their goals are. No more pretending they support 2A Rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by rushca01
I would imagine if Pelosi ever had the opportunity to call for a national "Gun Emergency" she would receive a national gun emergency, barrel first.
lets hope the left does that and she leads some emergency gun grab !!! might open more eyes to the ones on the fence as to the truth