Pelosi, gun emergency..

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Originally Posted by JulyAZ

Honestly, I don’t think he has the power to declare a national emergency for this wall.

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He does.

According to the Brennan Center for Justice, presidents have declared national emergencies 60 times (including Trump) since the power was codified in 1976. Although the law — passed in the aftermath of the Vietnam War and Watergate — gave Congress the right to challenge an emergency declaration, most have been uncontroversial.

"There's rarely been a problem," Trump said. "They sign it. Nobody cares. I guess they weren't very exciting."

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/15/69520...like-trump-has

Wake me up when the shooting starts.

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Originally Posted by themonk

Here we go to what? She literally said this [STRIKEOUT]so you would freak out[/STRIKEOUT] BECAUSE SHE HAS 3 MARBLES LEFT RATTLING IN HER HEAD.

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FIFY. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by jsbhike

Just looking at history and how it has rarely gone that way. The intended victims always have the cards severely stacked against them by the point they get pissed off enough to retaliate.

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Thus my post about it being a nothing burger because we still have our guns. Until they manage to actually take them away....nothing burger.

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6

Thus my post about it being a nothing burger because we still have our guns. Until they manage to actually take them away....nothing burger.

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Private citizens are already decades behind due to artillery & aircraft just to name a couple of things on the tech side of things alone.

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Originally Posted by FlyingHunter

I would imagine if Pelosi ever had the opportunity to call for a national "Gun Emergency" she would receive a national gun emergency, barrel first.

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Remember when Obama talked up gun EOs... Unless you are claiming martial law, I don't see any real impactful stuff. I'd still like to hear what she has in mind though, or get some tone deaf gun grabber make some suggestions. I agree, the Global Warming stuff is more fertile ground.

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Originally Posted by jsbhike

Private citizens are already decades behind due to artillery & aircraft just to name a couple of things on the tech side of things alone.

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Granted the FAA thinks it knows where all the heavy ones are, but you know how many drones are in private versus public hands? See how one drone jacked with the complete airspace of the UK recently? Technology isn't on the side of the Goliaths.

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Originally Posted by jsbhike

Private citizens are already decades behind due to artillery & aircraft just to name a couple of things on the tech side of things alone.

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Put things into perspective. There are more than 10x the active hunters than us active duty military. This leaves out the non hunting gun nuts, retired military, etc. What do you think will happen if DHS, the FBI and the police are called on to enforce gun confiscations? More than half will non comply due to the belief in the 2A. Some will non comply due to the fact that they will be going against friends, family, neighbors. The rest will have to deal with internal sabotage and then concern for their own family once the word gets out that they are "the enemy". Artillery and aircraft? In this type of situation, how does this really play into this scenario?

The attack on the 2A is for a reason. They know this is a must do before they can exercise any real control.

I would just like point out, that 13th century, booger eating, goat raping tribesmen have kept the Soviet Union and the United States at bay with nothing more than small arms. Whether or not there is a large of number of people in this country willing to do that is another question.

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Originally Posted by murphy j

I would just like point out, that 13th century, booger eating, goat raping tribesmen have kept the Soviet Union and the United States at bay with nothing more than small arms. Whether or not there is a large of number of people in this country willing to do that is another question.

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I tend to agree your gun owning neighbors will be peaking out from behind closed drapes when the government employee scum arrive squad style to kill you because you didn't turn in the guns.I doubt any unionized government people will give up their pay and pensions when it comes time to confiscate the guns or lose their pay and pension.

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6

Put things into perspective. There are more than 10x the active hunters than us active duty military. This leaves out the non hunting gun nuts, retired military, etc. What do you think will happen if DHS, the FBI and the police are called on to enforce gun confiscations? More than half will non comply due to the belief in the 2A. Some will non comply due to the fact that they will be going against friends, family, neighbors. The rest will have to deal with internal sabotage and then concern for their own family once the word gets out that they are "the enemy". Artillery and aircraft? In this type of situation, how does this really play into this scenario?

The attack on the 2A is for a reason. They know this is a must do before they can exercise any real control.

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The vast majority of hunters and firearms owners in generally have zero idea of what firearms ownership means in terms of the 2nd Amendment and any enlightenment typically repulses them.

While there are some .gov that wouldn't engage in confiscation, the harrassnent by LEO's against firearms owners completely in compliance with current laws doesn't seem to indicate there would be some vast mutiny when those same citizens are in violation.