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Other than a short "the enemy of my enemy is mt friend" alliance during the Soviet invasion, they have never been allies, and we need to stop pretending they are. Obviously they knew where OBL was, ignored other terrorists coming into their Territory to hide from us, undermine us where ever they can, while taking "aid" from us. The Indians have always been far closer to legit allies, and that's who we should back clearly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABNAK
Where was Bin Laden hiding again? Most people probably don't know the history of Pakistan and the fact that it was stolen from India.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyLate
I mean, obviously we have to back India- otherwise who will we call when something doesn't work? :laugh:
Yeah, but if you want to go down that favored road of the leftists, we're going to have to have an uncomfortable talk about a certain small coastal country we're buddies with, or the country we're standing in, or Greece, Rome, Egypt, Iran/Iraq (ie, Persia and Babylon), oh, and by the way, demand reparations for the Hittites...Quote:
Originally Posted by SteyrAUG
It's just not a viable pretext for war.
Since the creation of those two countries, they been duking it out with pakistan getting their asses kicked.
We need to get our nukes out of pakistan and let the IAF kick their ass!
Thank god we never let them into NATO
Pakistan is a hotbed of Islamic violence, whose intelligence agency actively supports the Taliban even while we have troops fighting the Taliban. More often then not the ruler is a military dictator after the elected President is deposed. Totally intolerant of other religions and supports madrassas that train for violent jihad around the world.
China is a sworn enemy who makes no bones about ripping us off economically and war gaming attacks on us in the western Pacific. Ruled by a tyrannical communist regime. Also with a history of supporting violent insurrections in other Asian states. Totally intolerant of any religion.
India is the most democratically lead country in that region. It does not routinely spread insurrection and violence in neighboring states and is generally very friendly to the US economically and politically. It allows a multitude of religions to openly practice their faiths. Mostly keeps to itself militarily and espouse no big plan to rule the world economically or religiously or politically.
Yet, the US bends over backwards to accommodate and support a Pakistan and Chine and ignore numerous long term attack’s on human rights. While basically ignoring India and providing little or no support in fear of upsetting our two “allies” on each side of India. India allied somewhat with Russia in order to get arms because we were helping the other two bastardized countries with weapons and aid. Guys from India I have talked with are as baffled as I am why we are not close allies with India rather than those other two trouble makers.
My only problem with India is the INSAS and telemarketers/customer service. Other than those two things they are [accent on] "Very fresh, thank you!"
Go India.
Yeah, but this isn't an ancient history thing so much as a "land grab" done post WWII after India gained independence from the UK. It's quite a bit different from my great, great, grandfather was a slave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jellybean
I sorta wish we could correct the arbitrary borders created after WWI, but honestly no matter where the lines were drawn or what names were given, Islam was going to be a problem. It just isn't a "live and let live" kind of religion.
What we need is some kind of modern reformation that results in a more secular version, but that won't be easy. The arab spring was the most serious attempt at an arab "renaissance" but it seemed to die at birth.
Our nukes? Whatever is there is certainly not under our control, more importantly Pakistan has not signed the nonproliferation treaty. Pakistan has even developed "tactical" nuclear weapons to counter the threat they claim India poses.Quote:
Originally Posted by platoonDaddy
Spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by NWPilgrim