They just don't listen very well

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03-13-19, 15:43
lowprone

Play stupid games, ect, etc, ect .
03-13-19, 16:00
Vandal

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Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag

This will go to grand jury.

Officer created jeopardy.

This has been the general consensus of other cops I've been talking to. This has been hashed out over and over with cops shooting at moving vehicles, you can't put yourself in jeopardy. The technical term is "Officer Created Jeopardy" and basically it says you can't put yourself in needless danger, then using lethal force to get out of it. In this video, the officer had a lot of room left and right, but he chose to stand directly in front of the car. Starks has already been relieved of duty for the investigation, badge and gun turned in.

He also didn't know the driver had a firearm until after the shooting when the female (side-piece, baby-mama, whatever) told officers when she was being detained.

Now, all of this could have been avoided had homie complied and done what he was fvckin' told. A lot of uses of force could be avoided by people doing what they were told.

ETA: I wasn't trying to educate LSHD who already knows this, but the others not familiar with the term.
03-13-19, 17:36
titsonritz

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Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag

Not necessarily, that depends on Policy/Procedure and SOP. We dont block stolen cars, we set up high-risk stops behind it.

But the vehicle in question was in a parking lot with a building behind the rig not on the road, wouldn't that make a difference? In full disclosure I'm not a LEO, it just seems to me blocking him in would have prevented soon to dead perp from ending up with a lead throwing blue hood ornament.
03-13-19, 18:39
SteyrAUG

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Originally Posted by Firefly

Daily reminder: All you favorite athletes and rappers are in their nice houses screwing their trophy wives and singing profane lies while you eat them +p hollow points.

Worth remembering. But if your average "yute" understood that, they could understand a lot of other things.
03-13-19, 18:47
NWPilgrim

Grand jury seems strange from a citizen perspective. If I was driving and another citizen was arguing with me and kind of got in front of my car and I kept driving into him, I am pretty sure I would be arrested for assault. Why is this different when the person on foot is a police officer?

Put me on the damn jury! I have no sympathy for the driver. A car can kill or maim a squishy bag of blood at 3mph.
03-13-19, 22:47
Jsp10477

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Originally Posted by Firefly

Welp...,

If he had just gotten out of the car, this would be a lot different.

What is it with these Testosterone poisoned, father-hating young people and wanting to buck against a police officer with their gun drawn?

Like do they think we just won’t kill their asses? That it’ll be like “Well golly gee you sure told me! I guess I better F off then...”

Daily reminder: All you favorite athletes and rappers are in their nice houses screwing their trophy wives and singing profane lies while you eat them +p hollow points.

Obviously y’all are getting the word out. 3 officer involved shootings in metro Atlanta in 24 hours. Hopefully the officers aren’t roided up, tactical timmy’s, on their 3rd divorce, burnt out from those $50 an hour side jobs sitting in work zones, and they made good shoots. Keep feeding them those +p hollow points, you’re winning over the public.

You’re right though, he should have complied. The only way to fight the cops and win is in a court room with a good lawyer.
03-14-19, 04:34
SteyrAUG

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Originally Posted by NWPilgrim

Grand jury seems strange from a citizen perspective. If I was driving and another citizen was arguing with me and kind of got in front of my car and I kept driving into him, I am pretty sure I would be arrested for assault. Why is this different when the person on foot is a police officer?

Put me on the damn jury! I have no sympathy for the driver. A car can kill or maim a squishy bag of blood at 3mph.

Now you got me thinking the other way. If I'm in a parking lot and some unknown quantity is blocking my way, we could get into lethal force threshold pretty quickly depending upon how badly he wanted to press it. It would be reasonable for me to assume car jacking, kidnapping for ATM heist or whatever.

Of course a police officer SHOULD have been a different story. Just like with the impaired female you brought home, STOP means STOP. I get the policy of agencies not wanting officers to insert themselves into dangerous situations that don't need to happen right now, but I'll take that over officers who do nothing and step back thinking "not my problem."

But it's hard to have proactive policing without them overstepping the boundaries. With the legal and social considerations at work, it's very catch 22 and only getting worse and it's hard to divine if social conventions are going to declare you a hero cop who saved the say or a murderer with a badge.

I have to go watch Adam 12 now so I can remember what it was supposed to be like.
03-14-19, 08:14
horseman234

Here is an article detailing the past of the "poor misunderstood" guy the officer shot, and whose family now suing for millions.

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/...police-awaite/

And here is a video of the little angel in the vehicle with the victim. I can't locate the one she made a little after the incident where she describes what happened:

https://www.facebook.com/desaray.cla...3542743806990/

I've been in that same parking lot many times. There is a Discount Tire one building away.
03-14-19, 10:10
Straight Shooter

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Originally Posted by horseman234

Here is an article detailing the past of the "poor misunderstood" guy the officer shot, and whose family now suing for millions.

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/...police-awaite/

And here is a video of the little angel in the vehicle with the victim. I can't locate the one she made a little after the incident where she describes what happened:

https://www.facebook.com/desaray.cla...3542743806990/

I've been in that same parking lot many times. There is a Discount Tire one building away.

These...zombies..live in an alternate reality. That "chick"? is a brain dead illiterate monkey and Im sure ole boy was too.
I DONT CARE if the cop "put himself in harms way"..if I were on the jury..NOT GUILTY. these people are animals and need be treated as such.
03-14-19, 12:09
LoboTBL

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Originally Posted by Straight Shooter

These...zombies..live in an alternate reality. That "chick"? is a brain dead illiterate monkey and Im sure ole boy was too.
I DONT CARE if the cop "put himself in harms way"..if I were on the jury..NOT GUILTY. these people are animals and need be treated as such.

You're exactly the type of person I'd like to see sitting on a grand jury. Especially here in Houston considering the "hug a thug" DA we're stuck with.

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