Teachers "shot" during drills

Get rid of government-run schools.

They’re abject failures by every metric and an obscene waste of tax money. Most teachers are imbeciles.

Banning compulsory government indoctrination centers (and that’s what schools really are,) is the answer - not banning/restricting firearms.

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Originally Posted by Firefly

By now I think we can outgrow the whole “just in it for hostages” bit.

An active shooter is going in fast. Most likely somebody is going to die regardless the once they get inside.

I don’t see why letting teachers voluntarily carry and carry radios is a bad thing. Seriously. F a loudspeaker or intercom.

Portable radios they check out before class and do radio checks every class change.

Make being an SRO a competitive assignment. Pay incentives, a little rank, and so on.

Have an officer’s room with a rifle, jump bag, and plate armor. Spare rifle in case they have to “deputize” on the spot.

A little target hardening goes a long way.

It doesn’t even have to be super militaristic. The first time it is successful then it will become standard. It will end the gun debate for schools.

Statistically, someone is going to shoot up another school.

Banning guns won’t change that. Armed resistance will.

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Fly, sometimes you're just plain whacked, but other times like this you whack it out of the park. :) Back when I was in college there were a few of us discreet CCW's on campus with Security's tacit approval, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who was told "if the shooting starts we're deputizing YOU on-the-spot." (It helped that some of 'em, all the way to Director of Campus Safety level, were shooting buddies.)

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Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

Simmunitions feel more real than anything I've ever done and this includes old school .38s loaded with wax rounds.

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Yup.. One of my last SWAT training sessions before I quit, I tool one to the lower lip. I'd (almost) rather have taken a bare fisted punch from Mike Tyson. That explains why I didn't feel the one that just missed my groin and hit my inner thigh just right the ball-sack. Good thing I lean left and not right... Yeah, that was a rough day. Zig, not zag...

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Originally Posted by Firefly

By now I think we can outgrow the whole “just in it for hostages” bit.

An active shooter is going in fast. Most likely somebody is going to die regardless the once they get inside.

I don’t see why letting teachers voluntarily carry and carry radios is a bad thing. Seriously. F a loudspeaker or intercom.

Portable radios they check out before class and do radio checks every class change.

Make being an SRO a competitive assignment. Pay incentives, a little rank, and so on.

Have an officer’s room with a rifle, jump bag, and plate armor. Spare rifle in case they have to “deputize” on the spot.

A little target hardening goes a long way.

It doesn’t even have to be super militaristic. The first time it is successful then it will become standard. It will end the gun debate for schools.

Statistically, someone is going to shoot up another school.

Banning guns won’t change that. Armed resistance will.

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I disagree with the pay and rank incentives for LEO. For a lot of agencies the SRO position is a dumping ground for people who do not want to perform field work or those who cannot cut it out in the field and administration uses the SRO position to hide them. This needs to stop. There should be a set rotation for the SRO positions in schools, two years or three years maximum, then back out on the street for at least that period of time or longer.

Issuing qualified teachers, who volunteer for the assignment, radios, sidearms, extra magazines and body armor that they can conceal on their person or somewhere nearby is a great idea. I think training other teachers, who volunteer for the assignment, in triage and advanced first aid techniques and issuing them the appropriate medical supplies would be a great idea. I don't agree with assigning volunteers to perform both tasks. The job of the armed volunteer is to minimize the threat and that should be their primary focus.

Whoever is on scene when the critical incident begins will most likely have to deal with it before personnel outside the school, church or workplace arrives.

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Originally Posted by T2C

I disagree with the pay and rank incentives for LEO. For a lot of agencies the SRO position is a dumping ground for people who do not want to perform field work or those who cannot cut it out in the field and administration uses the SRO position to hide them. This needs to stop. There should be a set rotation for the SRO positions in schools, two years or three years maximum, then back out on the street for at least that period of time or longer.

Issuing qualified teachers, who volunteer for the assignment, radios, sidearms, extra magazines and body armor that they can conceal on their person or somewhere nearby is a great idea. I think training other teachers, who volunteer for the assignment, in triage and advanced first aid techniques and issuing them the appropriate medical supplies would be a great idea. I don't agree with assigning volunteers to perform both tasks. The job of the armed volunteer is to minimize the threat and that should be their primary focus.

Whoever is on scene when the critical incident begins will most likely have to deal with it before personnel outside the school, church or workplace arrives.

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For all the education that supposedly happens in a school building, simply asking them "Wouldn't it be nice to have the option to shoot back" has far too many of them flustered.

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Originally Posted by T2C

I disagree with the pay and rank incentives for LEO. For a lot of agencies the SRO position is a dumping ground for people who do not want to perform field work or those who cannot cut it out in the field and administration uses the SRO position to hide them. This needs to stop. There should be a set rotation for the SRO positions in schools, two years or three years maximum, then back out on the street for at least that period of time or longer.

Issuing qualified teachers, who volunteer for the assignment, radios, sidearms, extra magazines and body armor that they can conceal on their person or somewhere nearby is a great idea. I think training other teachers, who volunteer for the assignment, in triage and advanced first aid techniques and issuing them the appropriate medical supplies would be a great idea. I don't agree with assigning volunteers to perform both tasks. The job of the armed volunteer is to minimize the threat and that should be their primary focus.

Whoever is on scene when the critical incident begins will most likely have to deal with it before personnel outside the school, church or workplace arrives.

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Excellent suggestions. Sadly, these are far too common sense for the school board and politicians to implement.

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Originally Posted by T2C

I disagree with the pay and rank incentives for LEO. For a lot of agencies the SRO position is a dumping ground for people who do not want to perform field work or those who cannot cut it out in the field and administration uses the SRO position to hide them. This needs to stop. There should be a set rotation for the SRO positions in schools, two years or three years maximum, then back out on the street for at least that period of time or longer.

Issuing qualified teachers, who volunteer for the assignment, radios, sidearms, extra magazines and body armor that they can conceal on their person or somewhere nearby is a great idea. I think training other teachers, who volunteer for the assignment, in triage and advanced first aid techniques and issuing them the appropriate medical supplies would be a great idea. I don't agree with assigning volunteers to perform both tasks. The job of the armed volunteer is to minimize the threat and that should be their primary focus.

Whoever is on scene when the critical incident begins will most likely have to deal with it before personnel outside the school, church or workplace arrives.

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Well yeah but you know what I mean. It shouldn’t be a pasture job like evidence or quartermaster.

You need ripe officers. Not too young not too old but still a bit of a firepisser.

I agree it should be rotated. Lots of gang and drug intel in schools too

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Originally Posted by Firefly

Well yeah but you know what I mean. It shouldn’t be a pasture job like evidence or quartermaster.

You need ripe officers. Not too young not too old but still a bit of a firepisser.

I agree it should be rotated. Lots of gang and drug intel in schools too

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All too often, D.A.R.E. and S.R.O. positions are filled with personnel who should be assigned to other positions. You need raw meat eaters who have enough diplomatic skills to work in a school environment. Even meat eaters should be rotated out on a regular basis.

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Originally Posted by Firefly

I plan to leave this world the same way I came in....

Naked, kicking and screaming, and covered in someone else’s blood

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Naked, really?

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Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

I'd be willing to bet the "pellets" were airsoft.

ETA: Yep, if you read it close "plastic pellets" which is airsoft. The same thing children shoot each other with during airsoft games. Leave it to Huffypo to exaggerate as much as possible.

Also is there a "non execution style" way of murdering unarmed people? I'd really like to learn the "non execution" method of killing people.

F-ing media.

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Cnn ran a video where the gun pictured was simunition but that Nerf knock-off with the round foam balls.

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/20...win-nr-vpx.cnn

Talk about thin skinned....

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Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

Naked, really?



Cnn ran a video where the gun pictured was simunition but that Nerf knock-off with the round foam balls.

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/20...win-nr-vpx.cnn

Talk about thin skinned....

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If we as a people are so weak that we can't shrug off Nerf, we are SOOOOOOOOOOOO ****ed... Dear God In Heaven, please help my people find their brains and their balls, or when the time comes for the Purge, help me and my brethren here get our loved ones safely out of the way first...