SHTF Optics

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Originally Posted by Circle_10

The Russians make...or made at least, a 1x sight that had the option of either an illuminated red dot or an etched black dot that could be used without batteries. I think it was called the PK-AS. I’m sure the optic itself doesn’t compare favorably to western optics but the idea of a 1x reflex sight with a simple non-illuminated “black dot” option seems like an interesting idea.

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Like the Primary Arms Cyclops?

IMO the Primary Arms are viable options for a shtf optic, glass is not great but for the money not bad, rugged, etched reticle daylight bright and cheap enough you can buy an extra for a backup.

Cricle 10, i had one of those POSP scopes for one of my AK's. I would agree that they are rugged enough for SHFT. I sold it for the price of a new AK, i regret it but oh well.

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Originally Posted by feraldog

batteriless, so i go trijicon: acog, rmr dual-illum, or their LPVO if they appeal to you

there are others like mepro, leupold prismatic, seeall, or any standard scope with a wire/etched reticle that can function without batteries

in some shtf scenarios, powered red-dots (ie aimpoints, eotechs, etc) may not be the best option

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ACOG is pretty close to ideal... Even when the tritium goes dead in the reticle you can tape a glow stick against the fiber optic and still have a lit reticle indoors. With an objective cap you can close, the lit reticle acts sort of like an occluded eye gunsight that works pretty well a contact shot distances. Once zeroed, no dialing or moving parts to break, fairly lightweight, pretty hard to destroy.

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Originally Posted by Schootz

What about EMP attacks?

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What about them?

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Originally Posted by MountainRaven

What about them?

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Mental masturbation at best.


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Originally Posted by mack7.62

No it isn't, not for shtf optic.

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Weight is always a concern. Heavier rifles handle slower and if you're going to be carrying it (SHTF and worried about how long it lasts, yeah, you're going to be carrying it), weight obviously matters.

Hell I'd say for a SHTF optic weight matters more than it would for non-SHTF for those of us regular type folks who are the types to bother asking this question

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Originally Posted by lsllc

Mental masturbation at best.

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Sounds about right

Form follows function, use dictates tool.

In home, across the street; RD and BUIS. I use a lot of MRO’s on carbines.
100 yds and out; LPVO.
At ranch/extended distance (300+); mo’ glass-2-10X/3-15X/etc.

Nothing’s etched in stone.
Using lowest common denominator (RD/BUIS) I’m not gonna just roll over whatever the scenario.

Vortex Razor 1-6x/1-10x with reptilia 90º RMR mounted on top and a offset mounted aimpoint t2 should be gtg

ACOG fiber optic models, TA31F, etc.

Quality LPVO with an etched reticle

backup or offset irons. Last you forever.