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Key words there are "sorta wish" which means "don't actually support."Quote:
Originally Posted by davidjinks
Also said "deny services", never said "deny liberty." Meaning I don't think you should be able to get welfare and not get the same shots we all got as kids.
Wish you'd read a little closer and not put words in my mouth that I never said.
I read what you wrote. Spin it however you want.....
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Originally Posted by SteyrAUG
I took the flu shot one & only one time 25 or more years ago & got sick as a dog...haven't had the shot or the flu since. No way am I taking any vaccine that was whipped up in warehouse via courtesy of wuhan!! Pretty sure my crew had the mild case of covid back in March over spring break anyway.
I'm done with this nonsense...both the wife & I are done with masks & she is like one of 2-3 people not wearing while getting groceries. If the establishment says it's necessary to enter, then I respect their policy but not going in. Hell, think I put on my bandana 2x since this shit storm hit. I can see it turning ugly if they prevent renewal of licenses, flying, etc if you don't get the vac.
considering here how many think those that do NOT GET the flu shot are dangerous irresponsible and so on ?
well I reckon many here are in favor of forced needles in arms so no surprise
my times abroad I have had dengue a few times and dysentery and giardia and a few other tropical 3rd world fun things
my doc told me if you get them deal with them in location as that is much better as they often know how to treat them than the poison the docs in the US not used to them put in you to TRY to stop them as none are guaranteed
IMHO same with flu its still a guess and really being in good shape that very few are these days is better then shots all the time
I do feel some child things that are dangerous are fine to get your kid vaccinated for but really quite simple you say NO to a vaccine then no insurance should cover the treatment it would all be out of pocket for the folks
I agree in that Polio, Measels, etc. are all "real" diseases. There's so much lies and propaganda surrounding the election year "Rona".... F@#K NO, would I get an injection for an unknown "virus".Quote:
Originally Posted by yoni
The likelihood of a covid vaccine is doubtful. Theoretically conceivable, but practically, extremely unlikely. There is a company, Moderna Therapeutics, it uses mRNA technology, they can possibly manufacture a vaccine based on the premise that engineered mRNA would instruct the body to produce antibodies rather than the traditional approach of exposing the body to attenuated virus like particles to illicit an immune response. Such a vaccine has never been created to date. Quickest vaccine ever developed that I recall was the mumps and that took about 4 years I believe. Say two years, for covid if you're an optimist. Or maybe never. An HIV vaccine has never been developed and its been, what, about 30 years since its discovery? Most likely treatment for covid/chicom flu would be antiviral therapy, a vaccine is not on the near horizon. Just my humble opinion. So, I wouldn't fret too much about forced vaccination of the populace.
Trouble is, some people can't take the vaccines. Unless you require vaccinations, you don't achieve herd immunity , so those folks are condemned to die on the altar of somebody else's "freedom."
If that were your kid, you might change your tune.
I also have had dysentery, giardia, and my favorite malaria.
I had my kids get all the shot required and then the military gave them the rest.
If someone has a child that has proven to have negative reaction to one vaccine. I would say a smart parents first question should be can they safely get the rest of the needed shots.
I get a flu shot almost every year now since my daughter was born, as I picked up almost every sickness from her daycare. Now with the flu shot, I rest a couple of days and really don't get sick during the year.
This covid vax push worries me though..
@univibe
What are the specific reasons you are citing here preventing vaccination? Every vaccine is different, you can’t just say I’m allergic to needles. Even if a person does have an allergy to a component of a vaccine, that can be treated.