'sophisticated' Anarchists, neo-Nazis Groups operational at recent protests

Finding direct evidence of Soros inciting riots is gonna be pretty tough since the guy masks himself in layer upon layer of organization and distances himself just enough.

But, and its a huge BUT- just look at what he has done with is money, follow the flow and see the insurrections that happen in every country he decides to get active in. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see what's going on if you do the research and follow the money.

OSF funds all sorts of fringe groups, BLM, Antifa, sunrise movement, maven.org, etc, etc, etc- he owns tons of media and it's pretty easy to see the funding and the messaging form both and what's written on the wall.

Read his books, he says what he wants pretty clearly and he is doing it. Look at the folks he pays to lead his organizations, same people who were in charge of the revolution movements in the 1960's.

Sure, Neo-nazis exist, but they are a drop in the bucket compared to BLM/Antifa/progressive socialist movements. Progressive socialists are much more organized and have a ton more money. Way more political influence and they own tons of media.

Google is NOT manipulating searches to get people to become favorable to the ideals of white nationalist Neo nazis. Facebook and youtube aren't deleting shit to get you to become white nationalist Neo nazi sympathizers.

But man are they doing their best to manipulate information and the messaging to help the socialist progressives and the far left run roughshod on this country.

It's kind of amazing when you really think about how deep they had to go and how much they had to infiltrate to accomplish what they are doing right now- the progressive socialist movement is big business, big money, big political names and it's infiltrating local, state and fed governments at all levels, it's the vast majority of media, has search engines and big tech companies on their side, injected themselves into academia and Hollywood- helping each other to literally manipulate the minds of the masses through a multilayered attack on the American way of life.

They've developed app based platforms for communication. They've organized to the point of having groups that indoctrinate young children into their movement and these groups literally say that their objective is to take advantage of these flashpoints and create insurrection (There own words) and revolution through taking over protests and turning them in to revolts and riots!!!!

But sure, those damn Neo-nazis and all there big tech companies and community organizations, political allies, mass media apparatus, etc are to blame.....

All those guys in the Hawaiian shirts dude, it's them and all their billions of dollars backing them- they're organized, they're nazis and and they are to blame for everything! HA!

It's rather hilarious that anyone uses the KKK/Neonazi bogeyman anymore. Those dudes are the ones literally playing dress up in their grandmas basements, not BLM and Antifa.

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Originally Posted by MountainRaven

Have some American troops in Vladivostok, there to fight the communists... while Germany was helping the communists, after literally giving Lenin a train to travel to St. Petersburg.

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And Germany helped Lenin get to Russia because they hoped he would screw up Russia so bad that they would drop out of the war. Germany was right and Russia did drop out of the war. But it wasn't Germany promoting communism so much as Germany using communist forces to undermine an enemy.

Anyone can look any of this stuff up.

Also for a few other members, Hitler wasn't a socialist so much as he was a "power by any method" kind of person. Ernst Rohm was definitely socialist and imagined a Socialist Germany. Goebbels was also extremely socialists and both of them viewed Russia as a potential ideological ally. Hitler killed Rohm for that reason and others (Rohm also wanted the SA to replace or become an auxiliary to the German military) and Goebbels became flexible with his political views.

Hitler allied with communist Russia when it was expedient to do so, he then attacked communist Russia when he felt it was expedient to do so. That doesn't make Hitler a communist or a socialist.

In fact Hitler joined the NSDAP (The National Socialist German Workers Party). Hitler wasn't German, he was Austrian, he wasn't a worker, he briefly supported himself as a starving artist before he became a politician, went to jail and became a different kind of politician. One could argue he was an author, but that isn't really a "worker" in the context of the NSDAP. Hitler was hardly a nationalist, he presided over the destruction of Germany and the german people, he clearly didn't give a F about either one of them, they were only a means to pursue his own ambitions and he was hardly a socialist, he used emergency powers to create a dictatorship as fast as he was able.

I would like to read more about why Michael Rozin thinks patterns and operation procedures leads him to believe Neo-Nazis were present in Minneapolis. Has he offered any more information than just opinion?

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We think there are people from Antifa on here (who don't have our best interests at heart).

We think there are people from Russia on here (who don't have our best interests at heart).

We think there are people from China on here (who don't have our best interests at heart).

Why do you think we don't have people who are Neo-Nazis on here?



Nazi Germany's Socialism was Socialism backed by (proto-)international corporations, including Coca-Cola and the Ford Motor Company: The most capitalist socialism ever.

As for taking the fight to communism...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-99-02013.JPEG

Have some American troops in Vladivostok, there to fight the communists... while Germany was helping the communists, after literally giving Lenin a train to travel to St. Petersburg.



This. I doubt they were alone.

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London, Washington & Berlin worked together to send the Communist thugs from US jails to Moscow. That’s recorded fact.

We had troops in Russia, we fought with the White Russians. But context must be understood which requires more typing than I’m willing to do. Suffice it to say it was more about partitioning Russia than fighting Communists. Period. And that was prior to WW II. Kuhn Loeb Bank is said to have sent $20M on that sealed train.

I’m WW II, Germany took off the gloves against the Communist threat and Stalin. There’s zero arguments against that.

Here’s where it gets interesting & the rub... once you allow Communist idealogues’ numbers to reach a critical mass you cannot easily rid yourself of them and in trying their will be dictatorial steps taken in the attempt.

There is a lesson there which makes studying HOW Germany dealt with them and watch how the the civilians suffered from, first the Communists and secondly the battle to rid themselves of the threat.

History (seems like to) repeat itself here, unfortunately. But fire like to countenance the thought much less speak or type it.

We have slept far too long & ostracized those who had the foresight and courage to talk.

So be it.

I’m not “seeing” things getting better here.

That was my point.


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I also think our biggest threat is the Communist Ideologues than the Neo-Nazi/Fascist idealogues.

Lots of self-proclaimed Anarchist or Anarchist-leaning people seem to be drawn to Antifa, Black Bloc, Unicorn Riot, etc.

But that’s my perception.


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I also think our biggest threat is the Communist Ideologues than the Neo-Nazi/Fascist idealogues.

Lots of self-proclaimed Anarchist or Anarchist-leaning people seem to be drawn to Antifa, Black Bloc, Unicorn Riot, etc.

But that’s my perception.


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These are the SA of the attempt to take down America, IMO. Once the left seizes power, those people will be purged.

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I also think our biggest threat is the Communist Ideologues than the Neo-Nazi/Fascist idealogues.

Lots of self-proclaimed Anarchist or Anarchist-leaning people seem to be drawn to Antifa, Black Bloc, Unicorn Riot, etc.

But that’s my perception.


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I don't think there really is much difference in their ideologies to be honest. The end results appear to be the same regardless. The only real differences I see is their presentation, how they want to get there and how fast they want it to happen. But judging from history, once they get to their destination, they tend to kill each other off.

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'sophisticated' Anarchists, neo-Nazis Groups operational at recent protests

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That's a bit too MUCH credit, don't you think? One can hardly subscribe to "anarchy" or "Nazism" as a philosophy, AND be "sophisticated." :rolleyes:

I'd just leave it at, "Anarchists, neo-Nazis Groups operational at recent protests."

I think a quote I read from the Southern Poverty Law Center about the riots is telling:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...parking-riots/

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That's a bit too MUCH credit, don't you think? One can hardly subscribe to "anarchy" or "Nazism" as a philosophy, AND be "sophisticated." :rolleyes:

I'd just leave it at, "Anarchists, neo-Nazis Groups operational at recent protests."

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Note those where not my words and I made sure to be clear of that aspect. Not being there and not really being my lane, I really can't comment on their legit level of sophistication at these events. I just thought it was an interesting conclusion from a crew with the creds to conclude it, who may also be simply attempting to drum up some attention and biz. I really don't know. We do know there's more to it than just random groups of kids making trouble.

If these and other groups are there for no other reason to cause violence and chaos for their own ends, and are using sophisticated approaches to accomplish it, they should be viewed as a national secrurity threat and treated as such.

Could make a good plot for my next novella. ;)