'sophisticated' Anarchists, neo-Nazis Groups operational at recent protests

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Originally Posted by WillBrink

If these and other groups are there for no other reason to cause violence and chaos for their own ends, and are using sophisticated approaches to accomplish it, they should be viewed as a national secrurity threat and treated as such.

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Precisely, the 'sophistication' here refers to the heavy coordination and high-level planning by people who know insurgency, counterinsurgency and OPSEC. Look at the planning docs from the Baltimore '15 riots, and then take a look at the Special Forces Unconventional Warfare Manual--I know I'm repeating myself, but I really do think we're looking at basically a TC 18-10 operation running By The Numbers, if not expanded with supplemental material.

Clear advance coordination across the country, high-level strategic thinking in the planning, commo jamming which is rather difficult to do without Gov Grade gear... this suggests to me at least one and more likely multiple 'Inside Men' within the various bureaucracies helping them.

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Originally Posted by Tx_Aggie

There have been members who posted quite a bit of White Nationionalist material. 7NG/RetroRevolver77 is the first that comes to mind, mostly in the old Civil War thread (including blatantly Neo Nazi slogans like the 14 words, links to some of Spencer's white identity movement material, etc.) though I think he deleted a lot of it after he changed his screen name. Benito is another past member who seemed to have a pretty hard line White Nationalist slant to some of his posts.

Both are now banned, FWIW. I never got the impression the site ownership or mods approved of or encouraged their presence, but they were tolerated in GD to some extent.

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If at any point anyone here starts with that Neo-Nazi crap by all means report them android and I will personally bounce them out of here with the quickness. Not just me but any Mod/Staff will bounce them. I'm not familiar with the user names mentioned but glad to hear they were banned.

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Originally Posted by Life's a Hillary

I'm simply asking for proof for all the claims that he is the bogeyman behind all this. Proof that isn't in the form of a Candace Owens tweet or something of the like. I'm not saying Soros is a good guy or anything of the like, I just find it laughable how people on this board will dismiss anything because it says Neo-Nazi's as a bogeyman yet turn around and do the exact same thing with Soros. It's not much of a reach to say there are white supremacists out there, blaming them for any incident that goes down right now is about as dumb as blaming George Soros. I'm surprised The Clinton Foundation isn't thrown in the mix more or did that get wrecked too hard when Hildog got beat and all the money stopped flowing in?

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When it involves the absurdly ludicrous claim that "white supremacists" or Neo-Nazi's are involved in the rioting and looting stemming from the murder of a black guy and the subsequent involvement of BLM and Antifa, yeah, I'll stand by that. Bunch of bullshit. 'Cause after all, the "white supremacists" and Neo-Nazis have such a loooong track record of cooperating with BLM and Antifa. Riiiiight......:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ABNAK

When it involves the absurdly ludicrous claim that "white supremacists" or Neo-Nazi's are involved in the rioting and looting stemming from the murder of a black guy and the subsequent involvement of BLM and Antifa, yeah, I'll stand by that. Bunch of bullshit. 'Cause after all, the "white supremacists" and Neo-Nazis have such a loooong track record of cooperating with BLM and Antifa. Riiiiight......:rolleyes:

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Well I didn’t claim they were cooperating so I’m not sure where you got that from. I also wouldn’t be shocked if there were some foreign actors antagonizing things either.

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Originally Posted by WillBrink

Head of private security company: Anarchists, neo-Nazis used 'sophisticated' tactics to escalate unrest in Twin Cities

Michael Rozin, CEO of Rozin Security, said his team of former special operations forces members helped track the violence and also were involved in protecting key sites on the streets.

Rozin said, for the most part, the fires and gunshots during the worst three-day stretch of the unrest, May 28 through May 30, were connected to known anarchists and some neo-Nazi groups who traveled to the Twin Cities metro in the days after George Floyd's death.

"The anarchists, the extremist groups, were operating in an organized fashion," Rozin said. "They were operating in what almost appears to be an asymmetric warfare manner."

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"I would rather not say, in my position, which groups by name were involved in this activity," Rozin said. "I think that is a question better answered by the FBI and the ATF."

https://kstp.com/news/anarchists-neo...pSmkKr_8_Yr03U

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Originally Posted by T2C

I would like to read more about why Michael Rozin thinks patterns and operation procedures leads him to believe Neo-Nazis were present in Minneapolis. Has he offered any more information than just opinion?

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Originally Posted by chadbag

I think a quote I read from the Southern Poverty Law Center about the riots is telling:

There is “no clear evidence” white supremacists are participating in the rioting and looting sweeping U.S. cities across America following the death of George Floyd, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) conceded in a New York Times report published Sunday.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...parking-riots/

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Might I suggest some light reading in the vein of DHS and DoJ/BJA funding strings for outside partner developed and sourced services, and who does or does not yet receive said funds? Just a guess, but I'd be willing to bet it would shed additional light on these conflicting reports. Just saying... :dirol:

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Originally Posted by Life's a Hillary

Could the same not be said about George Soros funding people that are provoking rioting? I know it's the popular boogeyman the right loves to point to but I haven't seen any evidence other than people with their tin foil hats on. There are certainly organized aspects of this and I wouldn't be surprised if there are some from the fringe left and fringe right antagonizing things.

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I don't have a link, but Nigel Farage (Brexit) claims to have the proof.

Beyond that Soros himself makes no secret about all of the different groups that in turn fund these rascals.

Yes, they are sophisticated.

I posted a few articles about a year ago or more only to be dismissed.

Matters not.

The “loner in his mother’s basement” is only a portion of these groups.

They have their own pipe hitters, Terrorists and whatnot as well.

Look up “Antifa, Rojava” and see what you find.

Later.


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Originally Posted by Life's a Hillary

Well I didn’t claim they were cooperating so I’m not sure where you got that from. I also wouldn’t be shocked if there were some foreign actors antagonizing things either.

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You'd have to be an idiot or watch too main MM media to believe "neo-nazis" or white supremacists are actively doing anything besides doing their orange is the new black thing in the prison system.

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Originally Posted by chadbag

I think a quote I read from the Southern Poverty Law Center about the riots is telling:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...parking-riots/

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That's pretty amazing considering Morris Dees can probably find a nazi in any synagogue.