Are Some Liberals waking up?

I think this quarantine time has been like sitting in the corner.
A bit of self reflection and some real time to observe what was made available over the last crazy six months has shown a new level of hypocrisy.
On one hand 'Black Lives Matter." on the other hand, I will stuff a couple of hundred COVID 19 positive patients in to your black grandma's nursing home, practically guaranteeing her infection and this passes the smell test?
There is a real lack of common sense coming from the Democrat party, if you have the time away from work to observe, this lack of leadership is very obvious.
So called "Moderate" Democrats might watch CNN and listen to NPR, but that veil of tripe is fast falling away.

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Originally Posted by Averageman

I think this quarantine time has been like sitting in the corner.
A bit of self reflection and some real time to observe what was made available over the last crazy six months has shown a new level of hypocrisy.
On one hand 'Black Lives Matter." on the other hand, I will stuff a couple of hundred COVID 19 positive patients in to your black grandma's nursing home, practically guaranteeing her infection and this passes the smell test?
There is a real lack of common sense coming from the Democrat party, if you have the time away from work to observe, this lack of leadership is very obvious.
So called "Moderate" Democrats might watch CNN and listen to NPR, but that veil of tripe is fast falling away.

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Because they refused to allow Trump any credit at all by using the hospital ship sent and have no problems sacrificing citizens due to TDS?

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Originally Posted by WillBrink

Because they refused to allow Trump any credit at all by using the hospital ship sent and have no problems sacrificing citizens due to TDS?

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Yes, just like the ComDems have no problems destroying our economy and burning down cities (dem controlled cities at that) due to TDS. I just wonder how many dem voters are going to get tired of their own party and vote against them in November.

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Originally Posted by flenna

Yes, just like the ComDems have no problems destroying our economy and burning down cities (dem controlled cities at that) due to TDS. I just wonder how many dem voters are going to get tired of their own party and vote against them in November.

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Not very many. The cities with the most problems have been controlled by dems at a local and state level for decades and the people there continue to vote in the same thing over and over. If the dems in places like Chicago and Detroit continue to vote the same, I can't see dems in places like Texas, Florida, or Virginia changing their minds. They will continue to blame bad orange man.

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Originally Posted by flenna

Yes, just like the ComDems have no problems destroying our economy and burning down cities (dem controlled cities at that) due to TDS. I just wonder how many dem voters are going to get tired of their own party and vote against them in November.

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I think there are millions of people at this point I refer to as "reluctant Trump supporters" who are not big fans of Trump per se, but so disgusted by what they have seen from the media, Dems, etc etc they will vote for Trump out of shear spite to send a message.

I think there's a lot of really pissed off people who resent being called a Nazi racist homophobic pedophile for even mentioning Trump has passed some good bills, etc.

I think enough people see through this, that those on the fence, those who may not be a fan, those seeing their cities and such go to chit, and others who are angry all around, will vote for Trump. I don't think the "anyone but Biden" voters will be as large as the "anyone but HC" voters, but they exist too.

I tend to think all that's happened actually strengthened that and the DNC knows it and in full free fall mode of desperation now.

While perhaps the true die hard Trump supporters may not be enough to carry it, I suspect the reluctant Trump supporters will carry the day easily.

Last election the DNC handed Trump the win on a silver platter by allowing HC to self ordain herself front runner. This time I think they will hand him the win on a platinum platter by their behavior over the last 4 years and the Electoral College will not be required...

Fastest growing voting block in the US is independent voters and more 'Mericans now independent voters then either party as of last times they polled though a high % of independents lean in one direction over another party wise. Note that's totally ignored by the media or either party but the message seems very clear to me, people are F ing tired of the two major parties and are trying to send a message best they can.

That's my predictions.

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Originally Posted by Whiskey_Bravo

Not very many. The cities with the most problems have been controlled by dems at a local and state level for decades and the people there continue to vote in the same thing over and over. If the dems in places like Chicago and Detroit continue to vote the same, I can't see dems in places like Texas, Florida, or Virginia changing their minds. They will continue to blame bad orange man.

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Agreed, its Trump or nothing for them. I've seen many people feel this way. I'm not a huge Trump fan myself, but I feel like I have to defend him more and more. They assume that once he's gone, all of their problems will be solved and people will embrace and sing kumbaya in the streets. I think that Trump and some if not most of the Republican part represents the working man, which I really do think is what is "waking people up" if not pushing them to understand that the left is not quite the place they want to be at the moment.

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Originally Posted by WillBrink

I think there are millions of people at this point I refer to as "reluctant Trump supporters" who are not big fans of Trump per se, but so disgusted by what they have seen from the media, Dems, etc etc they will vote for Trump out of shear spite to send a message.

I think there's a lot of really pissed off people who resent being called a Nazi racist homophobic pedophile for even mentioning Trump has passed some good bills, etc.

I think enough people see through this, that those on the fence, those who may not be a fan, those seeing their cities and such go to chit, and others who are angry all around, will vote for Trump. I don't think the "anyone but Biden" voters will be as large as the "anyone but HC" voters, but they exist too.

I tend to think all that's happened actually strengthened that and the DNC knows it and in full free fall mode of desperation now.

While perhaps the true die hard Trump supporters may not be enough to carry it, I suspect the reluctant Trump supporters will carry the day easily.

Last election the DNC handed Trump the win on a silver platter by allowing HC to self ordain herself front runner. This time I think they will hand him the win on a platinum platter by their behavior over the last 4 years and the Electoral College will not be required...

Fastest growing voting block in the US is independent voters and more 'Mericans now independent voters then either party as of last times they polled though a high % of independents lean in one direction over another party wise. Note that's totally ignored by the media or either party but the message seems very clear to me, people are F ing tired of the two major parties and are trying to send a message best they can.

That's my predictions.

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Will, I couldn’t agree with your assessment more or put it nearly as eloquently as you did.

I also think that the dems critical mistake was the same exact mistake the republicans made when Romney got the nomination. Huge field of candidates that no one was really excited about but they were hoping someone besides old man, creepy, sleepy Joe would get the nomination. None of those worthless candidates rose above and now no one is actually excited to vote for Biden. When you can only run on the platform of, I’m not the current guy, you’re gonna have a hard go of it.

Trump might turn a lot of people off but he also has a rabid base and enough quiet, rational people that are sick of the overwhelming political correct narratives being shoved down their throats like they did something wrong that they’ll hold their nose and pull the Trump lever and never tell a soul.

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Originally Posted by Life's a Hillary

Will, I couldn’t agree with your assessment more or put it nearly as eloquently as you did.

I also think that the dems critical mistake was the same exact mistake the republicans made when Romney got the nomination. Huge field of candidates that no one was really excited about but they were hoping someone besides old man, creepy, sleepy Joe would get the nomination. None of those worthless candidates rose above and now no one is actually excited to vote for Biden. When you can only run on the platform of, I’m not the current guy, you’re gonna have a hard go of it.

Trump might turn a lot of people off but he also has a rabid base and enough quiet, rational people that are sick of the overwhelming political correct narratives being shoved down their throats like they did something wrong that they’ll hold their nose and pull the Trump lever and never tell a soul.

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Agreed, and will snicker at the TV when the results come in having sent their message seeing the lib tears and all. I will also add, that like last time, the DNC will blame it on everything and everyone but themselves, and apathetic black voters, Christian women, white cis males, and neo nazi's will all be blamed for the loss.

They will have handed Trump term 2 on a platinum platter and still not "get it."

I also think now with nothing to lose, we may see some epic investigations on some people we all wanna see go down flames, and if God/Allah/Shiva willing, HC herself and perhaps Holder.

Enter stage right, Murder Hornets...

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Originally Posted by Averageman

I think this quarantine time has been like sitting in the corner.
A bit of self reflection and some real time to observe what was made available over the last crazy six months has shown a new level of hypocrisy.
On one hand 'Black Lives Matter." on the other hand, I will stuff a couple of hundred COVID 19 positive patients in to your black grandma's nursing home, practically guaranteeing her infection and this passes the smell test?
There is a real lack of common sense coming from the Democrat party, if you have the time away from work to observe, this lack of leadership is very obvious.
So called "Moderate" Democrats might watch CNN and listen to NPR, but that veil of tripe is fast falling away.

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Agreed with everything you said.

But it doesn’t matter. They’re not going to vote republican. Best case scenario, they sit out the election. Just because one realizes how batshit the Democratic Party has become does not mean they could EVER support Trump. Lefty friends and family have said this. Some will sit it out, more will just vote blue no matter who.