Weird. I was driving home tonight and I was just thinking that my MOE doesn't balance my middy to well and was trying to figure out how I'm going to pay for a sopmod and then I see this thread.
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Weird. I was driving home tonight and I was just thinking that my MOE doesn't balance my middy to well and was trying to figure out how I'm going to pay for a sopmod and then I see this thread.
The Sully stock is nice if you don't need a collapsible one.
My BCM midlength wore a MOE until yesterday when I installed my BCM lower on it. Now it wears an M4 stock, and I'll run it that way a bit. If there are balance concerns this will of course make it even worse as the M4 stock is even lighter than the MOE.
Running a CTR now but when I get some LPKs I'm going to use my stash or preproduction UBRs.:D
EMOD, UBR, SOPMOD all work great for balancing out a longer carbine. The EMOD on my rifle balances it out very well, and feels very nice.
I am sure that everyone that reads these threads gets tired of me expressing my almost girlish giddiness over the UBR.
I haven't tried every stock on the market on my Middie, but of the ones that I have my favorites are the UBR (1), and the SOPMOD (2). As of three months ago every one of my guns would wear a UBR if (1) they were available and (2) they cost less than $350. The EMod and ACS seem like a much more cost efficient solution (even if the EMod is uglier than two miles of mud fence).
I want to try an EMod out as it gets favorable reviews by those using them, as well as the ACS, which has gotten very good reviews by Stickman (of sickeningly awesome photography and WEVO fame).
I pesonally find the M4 and CTR to be too light to balance my middie (16" barrel, fixed FSB, 9" DD Lite Rail, DMS-1, LaRue SPR-E) if I put on anything heavier than a rail panel. This may be because the DMS-1 is fraking HUGE (it's a POS, don't ask).
F2S, you bring up a good point, and that is that what you have hanging off the gun has as much to do with the balance as the stock. In my case, I have found that I don't have much need for a rail system, which means I can keep the gun lighter out front, which in turn colors my stock selections. For those with an operational need for lots of things that attach to the rails this may not be possible.
I find it somewhat odd that, in the commercial market, installing a rail system is now seen as pretty much standard practice. We get guys out all the time with rails but no optic, which to me is misplaced priorities (don't get me started on rails but no sling!). Yeah, yeah, I get the whole "learn the irons first" thing, but installing that rail is not a prerequisite to learning the irons, and at the very least that cost could have gone to ammo and mags, both of which are far more conducive to learning the irons. A quality midlength rail, plus covers, plus sling mount (if not already included) plus VFG is north of $300 and as much as $350. Figure a longer rail, a full set of Troy sights, and you're well north of $500 (not to mention installation, low profile gas block and/or shaving FSB costs). With an Aimpoint C3 in mount being only $450, and a rear MBUS being $50..... If there are balance/weight concerns with the C3 then frankly I'd put the money I was going to put into a stock into an Aimpoint Micro instead.
Bringing this full circle, I'm reminded of the "go shoot the gun" thread. I can't tell you how many setups I've tried in the house that seemed like the next greatest thing, only to have them suck ass at the range or at a class, as well as the reverse of something that sucked at home and worked wonders at the range. The BCM lower came with a stock, assuming that's what one has, and plastic handguards are cheap. I'd "go shoot the gun" and see how I like it the way it came.
(caveat that if you're building from scratch there's something to be said for a stock like the CTR or MOE that don't cost too much more than the M4 stock)
Magpul CTR w/buttpad here. I like that it locks up nice and firm, no wobble/rattle.
I currently run an Emod on my BCM middy. Anybody have the weights for the Emod and the UBR? I'm curious to know which one is heavier.