BCM FA BCG MODIFIED w/ FAIL ZERO RANGE REPORT AWESOME
I received my Bravo Full Auto BCG back from Fail Zero on Friday. When to the range that night and yesterday for some Testing. Before installing the bolt I did put a very very light coat of oil on the carrier and bolt.
I managed to shoot 230 rounds through it Friday. I got home and the bolt looked dirty to say the least. I took it apart and cleaned it up. Took me about 15 minutes and there was nothing that required the use of anymore than a rag and a toothbrush and some CLP ( by my own choice). Probably didn't need it.
I should mention I didn't clean anything but the bolt and carrier. I went back Saturday and spent a good part of the day. I fired almost 600 rounds downrange. I probably spent as much time picking up all my brass as I did shooting.
I didn't have any FTF whatsoever. It was suggested I might want a H2 buffer but so far I had not had a problem. I am reloading in the mid ranges using Hornady bullets. Maybe that's why no FTF.
Anyway, had to mow the lawn when I got home, so didn't do any cleanup last night. I know most of you guys spray CLP or the like on and let sit over night. I didn't do that. I did down the barrel quick.
I had 80 rounds of Steel Cased 52 grain Wolfs I'd never used. so decided to see how they would feed before cleanup this Sunday morning. Well I got 5 shots off and it jammed. I cleared it tried again and I nearly emptied the mag before it jammed again. Cleared and tried the other mag. Every shot jammed. I gave up after 6 rounds and stripped it down to clean.
I can only assume the problem with the wolfs was the wolfs. Possibly I'll need a H2 buffer if I use that quality of ammo. Than maybe not with my Reloads. My bcg was clean enough having used no oil this time/ that I wiped it down with a damp rag and than hit it with some compressed AIR. Clean as a Whistle.
Wondering if I wasted my money on my CAR bolt cleaning tool. (Think that's what it's called. Came from the guy who makes the Moacks staking tool.)
The rest of the Rifle cleaned about like normal. Maybe a bit easier. I plan on calling the company to see what other parts might effectively be coated. I know I'll be sending in some spare bolts.
I wouldn't personally want this on any outside parts. It has a slippery feel to it. I doubt I'd like it. I can see doing the receiver maybe.
To all of you guys who say just oil her up and go are missing the boat. Not only does this cycle flawlessly, but the cleanup is awesome. I spent 15 minutes tops both times. How long does it take to clean an untreated bolt and carrier? Remember I said spot less.
I don't know a single shooter that enjoys cleaning rifles and guns. The time this saves and the fact of not needing any elbow grease and chemicals makes it worth it.
Based on my oil and no oil experience. My next test will be to see how many rounds I can shoot before being forced to clean it because it quits. That will be a true clean up test.
Wonder if barrel lug area could be treated>? actually mine looks good for now with just a little clp overnight.
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Hello to the wire. I'm going to wade into this and answer questions on the Fail Zero bcg. I'm the gunsmith UCT hired 19 months ago to straighten out the armaments program and develop a commercial line of products. until then Uct had no weapon proffesional on site. I would like to settle one story right off the bat, sinister, you were present at a firing at Fort Benning I think? yes the weapon would not work. why? the weapon was assembled by chemical engineers and platers. who did not know the complexities of the weapon. in short they should have had it assembled by a gunsmith or armorer. they took the weapon to a gunshop after the test and the gunsmith fixed the problem. the weapon fired with no problems after that. on the oil question, this 5th gen NiB is not lubeless. it is permanently lubricious. it will run against itself with very little wear. it is slick and hard which allows it to run against softer metals such as aluminum without galling. I know people who run small amounts of oil with the coating, thats fine, it will work with or without! here is a dirty little secret, run the gun dry until it is finally too dirty to chamber a round. spray some liquid or oil or anything in the upper, work the charging handle a couple of times and you are back in business. you can now keep running with a lubed weapon. think about it, it will work both ways giving you a tactical ( no oil trail when doing wet insertions to the beach ) advantage. to answer another question, yes we fire every BCG that goes out the door. 10 rds minimum out of 4 different weapons 4 different manufacturers. we are striving for quality and we do not mind spending the ammo budget to get it. so if you have a problem with your kit remember it has fired in a weapon prior to shipping, so check all the usual causes before getting frustrated. In my experience some weapons will "break in" to themselves and buck when a fresh part is inserted. they can be finicky. but with our return warranty it is not something to worry about. I will be checking in to answer questions so please ask whatever it is you want to know.
good shooting to you all.
The above quote is a Statement Direct From the GunSmith at Fail Zero. The Forum Members name is SCRAMBLER As you can see they are not advocating neglect. Please read the other thread below this. Also read the Fail Zero warranty.