Indeed I was just thinking out loud. But would you personally buy a $3000 S&B scope to put on a $800 AR?
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Indeed I was just thinking out loud. But would you personally buy a $3000 S&B scope to put on a $800 AR?
Not on a 800 AR but I would on a good 1200 to 1500 AR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimbo
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Everyone has their preferences. I would throw the $3k scope on a precision gun and piggy back that t1 on it. If it was like an AR10 or SPR or boltgun
Nothing odd about quality glass. I have quite a few dollars in US Optics glass on my bolt actions. Of course as an AR newbie, mine are still naked while I figure out what I want to mount on them.
Gents,
Keep in mind this was a request from US MiL for ACOG application.
Becuase of the angle and close proximity to the scope/knobs etc it MAY not work on some apps.
It should be available in approx. 2 weeks and there should be a compatilbility index available as well.
The obvious alternative is to mount it on the FF Rail in front of receiver's picatinny etc
Ideally an SPR type of application gives the "TP" a added CQB range in those situations etc.
There may/may not be other angles available as this product evolves.
I would say that the optic used is of the utmost importance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimbo
Look at what the .mil sticks on guns to get hits as quickly and efficiently in as many environments as possible-
ACOG
ATIPAL (IR laser/Vis laser/IR Flood)
Tac Light
and a rail system to support the above.
All those items come to a total that is about 4X the cost of the base gun.
But it is worth it.
What would you rather have in a fight-
A Noveske with no sights whatsoever
Mini-14 with an optic that permits fast close fighting and long distance precision in both daylight and darkness?
That is, of course, two extremes of the spectrum, and the real answer is going to be somewhere between the two (especially as far as base weapon), but the point is valid. Just as is pointed out when choosing base weapons, if you are on very tight budget, your money and time will be better spent on improving your skill with the weapon than buying a bunch of crap you don't really know how to use effectively.
One of the major limiting factors of a weapon will be it's sighting system.
How limited the system will be will be highly dependant on the individual's training and employment environment.
Whether the ShortDot, ACOG/T1, ACOG/RMR, T1/3X, etc. is applicable to your needs and/or budget is up for you to decide, but saying that it is stupid to pay more for your optic than your carbine is a logic fail.
My first thought when I saw the pic was "Holy Crap, how did I mount mine backwards???"Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterWilson
I think I opened a can of worms here and did it unintentionally. I agree quality optics are nice, and was just merely making a comment on how humorous optic prices add up and can be well over the cost of the weapon. I Never said it wasn't necessary or it was dumb.
Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimbo
It's one of those things that come up often and without any additional comments I thought that was what you were saying.
I heard somewhere that americans stick $100 scopes on $1000 guns, while europeans stick $1000 scopes on $100 guns.