Are the two piece free float rails (Midwest Industries) where you don't have to remove the barrel and sight post as good as one piece free floats? How do they attach and is there any room for movement?
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Are the two piece free float rails (Midwest Industries) where you don't have to remove the barrel and sight post as good as one piece free floats? How do they attach and is there any room for movement?
Here's an article that was posted here a little over a year-and-a-half ago which covers the subject pretty extensively:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=17077
I had hoped to get some feedback on the 2 piece rails by Troy and MI. Any info is appreciated.
They're not in the same league, as you will see by the price. The MI should mount solidly, but it weights quite a bit more, around 15 oz if I remember. The Troy is under 9 oz.
I have the Troy and it clamps onto the barrel extension very tightly. It has anti-rotation notches, and the bottom part fits tight to the top with no wiggle.
If I had a carbine, I would consider MI based on their reputation. With my 12 rail, I'm glad I bought the Troy. But I got mine used same price as the new MI :).
I have the MI 2 piece ff rails mount very solid no movement at all. The only dislike i have is the width of the rail its alittle wider than i would like, but no regrets here.
DD omega is the only rail i'd use.. 8oz, goes on in 5 minutes with nothing more than a screwdriver, backed up by DD's outstanding customer service, no sharp edges, it's the best FF 2-piece available, and they're cheap for what you get.
A while back Military Morons did a review of a bunch of different rail systems including some of the two piece floating ones.
It would be worth going over there and checking it out.
I have a MI two piece FF rail on one of my rifles. Its a 10" one. It works really well. It is a bit fat in the ass and as others have said a tad heavy. Having said that I never plan on using my rifle for anything other than at a range or maybe doing some hunting. I have also had a DD Omega, and a Surfire (Not FF), and a VLTOR CASV-EL.
The MI are actually pretty decent for the price. Yes you can buy a better FF rail. It comes down to application and what you are willing to spend.
If I had to suggest one to you for the most rock solid performance under $300 I would suggest the VLTOR CASV-EL. This thing is almost like having a monolithic rail on your rifle. No need to remove the FSP and you don't have to cut your Delta Ring to install so it is totally reversable and portable to your next rifle and it free floats your barrel. The only thing you need to do is remove your front sling swivel and bolt it on.
If you are on a strict budget and can only spend around $175 get the MI for your carbine. It will work just fine if you are a casual shooter and you don't want divorce when your wife signs for the UPS delivery.
If you plan on some REAL hard use of your rifle save your pennies and get the CASV or Omega or Troy. IF you are going to dish it out and go to hell and back with that rifle do yourself a favor and then go whole hog and install a Larue.
Just my two cents.
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If I had to suggest one to you for the most rock solid performance under $300 I would suggest the VLTOR CASV-EL. This thing is almost like having a monolithic rail on your rifle. No need to remove the FSP and you don't have to cut your Delta Ring to install so it is totally reversable and portable to your next rifle and it free floats your barrel. The only thing you need to do is remove your front sling swivel and bolt it on.
What he said. Different strokes for different folks .It really depends what your plans are for that rifle and how you intend to use it but me likey my CASV-EL alot!
I recently bought the Troy MRF-CX which is a 12" FSP cut out rail which only requires you to cut off the delta ring to install. Prior to that I had a Daniel Defense Omega 7.0 rail which is a great rail. I went with the Troy because I wanted a longer rail, and I have a pinned FH so removing the barrel nut was not an option. The Troy rail is very well built and very solid to boot. I think it is on par with the Danile Defense rail I had on previously.
I have run a DD Omega 7.0 for 2 years and have had no problems with it. It's super light, strong as an ox, and hasn't moved at all. For the price, you cant beat IMO.
I have several MI 2 piece ff rails and I am very pleased with them. I use them on pinned and welded flash hider applications.
As stated, they are on the wide side, and they are not the lightest weight option, but I have found them to be rock solid and well machined.
My thoughts EXACTLY! I have the MI 2 piece too.
I can't imagine gaining anything by going one piece... I just wish it was thinner.
There are more screws that could possibly come loose. Although I've not had that happen.
To me, the two piece was worth NOT having to remove my FSB to install.
I find the MI two piece to be very solid and I have had no problems. ZERO movement of the rail. It just plain works. It is wide and some users don't like that. For the price MI makes a pretty decent rail. I tried the Omega and it was EASY to install but I liked the MI better even though I had to cut the delta ring off. The MI is VERY similar in design to the Troy and looks/feels similar also. The MI costs less than the Troy.
Finding a good rail at a decent price is tough choice to make. You have to balance budget, application, quality and value. Half the fun is looking and exploring your options.
This is a 10" I installed on one of my AR's.
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...manIsle003.jpg
I agree with you about how thin the Omega's profile is. I could not get use to it and that is why I sold it. Nothing to do with its quality.
There is another 2-piece budget option from Ergo. The only place I have seen that carries it is Rainier Arms. Stickman only sells quality items so by default I have to assume this system must have something going for it. Perhaps he or someone else that has tried the Ergo rail can offer some insight.
the skinnier the better.. if i can completely wrap my hand around the facker, it's perfect.
Back in the day, it might have been 6 months ago, VFG's were all the rage. When I was running a VFG the fatty rail was not an issue for me. I have added some Magpul panels to my MI and now that baby has a fatter ass than Kirsty Alley. LOL. I am probably going to buck the trend and go back to the VFG or become a total gear queer and add some Tango Down Bipod legs to it.
I think the CASV-EL without any rails on the bottom is the most comfortable thing going, even better than factory round/oval hand guards.