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nolacopusmc
Thanks for the less abrasive recommendations. :cool:
Oh I am MUUUCH more user friendly than Rob. Ok, not really (just ask Tom). :D
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Despite his delivery, I think ROBS is right about stating it up front what was given, etc. Truth be told, it honestly never crossed my mind. Being someone who attempts to maintain the highest level of integrity, I naively never considered it to be an issue and obviously should have factored that skepticism into the equation.
Rookie mistake...will not happen again.
When we look at ourselves, we know that we are telling the truth. However, you have to think of it from an outsider looking in. Good lessoned learned for you and will aid you in future reviews. Like when I tell people that I personally have no issue with Spikes Tactical, they don't believe me and believe I have an agenda (except to get the truth).
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Furthermore, this was my very first attempt at doing a video. I admit it does have a commercial feel to it. My logic at the time for not getting into the spec was that most of the information is available via their website. And yes, i take their word for it unless I have reason to believe they are lying. Obviously, you currently have some issue with Spike's claim, but i do not, and I hope that will all be cleared up shortly. But again, that was not the scope or angle of this review.
If the user wanted to go to their website, they would. They are coming to YOU for the info so give it to them.
As someone that has worked in this industry for many years, I will tell you to trust NO ONE. You don't know Tom from Adam. Trust but verfiy. ;)
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Also, I was trying to keep it relatively short, and it was nearing 10 minutes without going into the 1 and 0 of it all. i did not want to do a 45 minute dissection of the rifle. Those kinds of things are better left to guys like you and Rob who have more experience.
Understand. I did get a little bored halfway through, but I am a Technical Spec guy and pointing to the chamber and FSB just doesn't do it for me. I want to see a pic of barrel certs, proof load certs, MPI, etc.
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I was going for more of an introduction of the rifle to the average end user--not Devgroup, CAG, RECON, or SEAL6. That being the goal, there was not the time built in for the technical specifics. I wanted more focus on the use and how it ran during the class.
The average consumer is MUCH more technical than they were 10yrs ago. They know what the mil-spec barrel steel is, they know about HPT and MPI and that manufacturers lie about specs all the time.
Stating that the gun ran in class was a good idea and something that I would look for (vs telling me that it "ran great" off a bench) so good on that part.
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That is also where the logic comes in with the oil thing. Like I said, I am not looking for a subMOA rifle performance out of this gun. I am looking for it to function reliably under slightly worse than realistic conditions that the non military combatant will see. The video was geared toward the civilian user or LEO who will in reality probably never fire 1k rounds through the gun unless they are a member here. Also, i was drawing on my experiences during Katrina as a realistic benchmark of sorts for one expression of durability. One expression--not all encompassing. I was not trying to recreate the Army trials.
What if the gun didn't run because it wasn't lubed? What would you have done then with your review? Understand what I am saying? You are setting yourself up for failure when you do that kind of stuff.
If you would have posted that the Spike gun didn't run and then later found out that you did not lube it, I would have held you accountable for being stupid (not Spikes). Something to consider.
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I am pretty sure most military guys are not looking at reviews to get info on rifles, again seeing as how many have little choice in what they carry anyway.
You must have never been in the Military. Most folks in the Military (even ones that carry a rifle for their job) know little to nothing about guns. Not everyone in the Military is a "gun guy."
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It is obvious that there are those here who are not very supportive of Spike's for their own reasons; however, that is no reason to cast a shadow on me.
I am sure this is true. They also have a metric truck load of fanboys that make up for the difference though. They all seem to live in FL too. Strange. ;)
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I got the gun (for free), ran the shit out the gun, and reported the results. if that bitch would have choked every third round, or blew like the piston and Colt systems we have seen, then that would have made for one hell of a review.
However something tells me if that was the case, the same people who are alluding that I am being dishonest would not really care at that point if I got it for free or not.
lastly guys, this was my first video that was released a little before it was ready. No need to punch a brother in the teeth on round one. LOL ;)
Sorry the gun ran. i am a tell it like it is guy, and if it had choked, we would be seeing some completely different pictures. LOL
Roger that. I think you will find that when a manufacturer sends you something for free and they do not get a glowing review, you are most likely never going to see anything from them again and might even get a nasty e-mail/phone call. This is of course not true with all manufacturers, but more times than not, that is the way it works (FYI).
Good luck on your future reviews.
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