Refuse to send your kids to school in the ghetto = jail time.

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Originally Posted by Armati

Again, 'separate but equal' has already been declared unconstitutional. Many people live physically closer to a school in a better locality but are districted in a worse school district.

To take it down to brass tacks, I wait with baited breath for 'integration' of predominantly white school districts by black students from other districts. Oh, fraptious day!

The fact of the matter is that most 'open minded' people are wildly bigoted, they just don't like to be forced to admit it.

I live in the Baltimore-Washington corridor. I see everyday where people drive two hours to work so they can send their kids to a whiter school district in PA, DE, or VA. Most of these folks have very good govt jobs in and and around DC but they will not live there because they don't to send their kids to schools in that area. Basically, people are FULL OF SHIT.

All we need now is a SCOTUS decision. Hopefully ol' girl lodges an appeal.

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What that woman did is no more noble than stealing a BMW because you think it would be safer for your kids than the Buick you have right now.

And the people driving two hours are paying property taxes thru the nose for it. It ain't racist, it a money thing. You just want something for nothing. You probably want to put section 8 housing in upper middle class neighborhoods too. I'm getting sick and tired of supporting deadbeats you won't pony the price for a McDonalds burger, but want Morton t-bone dinners.

You want to start busing kids all over the place to equal out racial numbers, be my guest. Was done back in the 60s and 70s and the only people that made out where the bus companies, Catholic schools, and realtors and farmers who made out on the middle class (both white and black) movement to new suburbs. I don't care, I send my kids to private school

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Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

You want to start busing kids all over the place to equal out racial numbers, be my guest. Was done back in the 60s and 70s and the only people that made out where the bus companies, Catholic schools, and realtors and farmers who made out on the middle class (both white and black) movement to new suburbs. I don't care, I send my kids to private school

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Exactly. It's a free country and nobody's forcing that woman to live in whatever undesirable district she's in.

Lying was the wrong way to take responsibility for her kids' education. She could have run for the local school board. She could have joined the PTA. She could have home schooled. She could have put them in private school. She could have moved. She could have used f!@$ing birth control. Now she's a criminal. Way to go, mom, way to go.

Regarding busing, black kids DO NOT WANT to be sent to white school districts. They do not want to integrate. I won't bother to look up a study right now, but they are out there.

And is there any evidence that black kids learn more when bused to a white school district? We know there is evidence that it causes harm to the white kids bused to the black school district but the liberals seem to think that is ok.

If my kids were going to be bused to a black school district I would move the heck away even if it meant I could only get a job at 7-11 and had to live in a 1965 trailer with no heat.

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Originally Posted by rickrock305

The worst part is the school district went so far as to hire a private investigator. Sure, we can't afford computers or textbooks, but we can damn sure afford a PI! :rolleyes:

What a crock of bullsh*t.

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My high school in my junior year re-did the track, football field, stands, and installed an extremely expensive lighting system. The track alone cost a couple hundred thousand. The total cost was just south of $1M. Not to mention the year after there was a strike for more money for the teachers.

Meanwhile, our books were falling apart and 15 years old, there were leaks in the roof, etc.

Organized sports shouldn't be a part of school, at least not while class sizes are growing and nobody has bought a new book in 10 years.



It's unfortunate that this woman is going to jail for wanting better for her children. Compared to a lot of parents in ghettos, this alone deserves praise. She might not even ostracize them if they become white collar professionals!

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What that woman did is no more noble than stealing a BMW because you think it would be safer for your kids than the Buick you have right now.

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Bullshit.. The local government should have no part telling you which school you should send your kid to.

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And the people driving two hours are paying property taxes thru the nose for it. It ain't racist, it a money thing.

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This is also bullshit argument. I know for a fact that at one time you could pay to attend a school that was out side you district the fee was to compensate the school system from the property tax that they didn't get from you. And from what I remember they were very happy to get it. The problems you state can be very easily worked out with out screwing the tax payer. The large inner city school systems are the ones that do not want this because they are the ones loosing money.

mom did what she had to do. I don't know why some of you are making her out to be the bad guy. Lying to get your kids into better schools is far more common than you think.

And let's not turn this in black school vs white school thing. It's a urban vs suburban issue and the sociology in these areas.

Maybe I need to clarify this...

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Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

What that woman did is no more noble than stealing a BMW because you think it would be safer for your kids than the Buick you have right now.

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She didn't steal anything from anyone. She may have lied on a govt form but that is not the same as stealing someones car.

In the particular case of MD, all school funds go into the general fund then the state redistributes the wealth. Every school district gets the same per student funding.

In many places the family lives physically closer to a school in another county but the are zoned for another district. I don't see the big deal in sending a kid to the school they are closer to.

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And the people driving two hours are paying property taxes thru the nose for it. It ain't racist, it a money thing.

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Not racist - bigots. There is a difference. The fact of the matter (in my particular area). Taxes of all types and the cost of living is higher in DC, MD, and NOVA. People commute from PA, DE, WV, and deep in VA where taxes are much lower. Honestly, I don't think this cost averages out when you factor in commuting costs and loss of sanity. And, many of these more upscale suburban areas are every bit as expensive as living downtown. So why the long commutes?...

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You probably want to put section 8 housing in upper middle class neighborhoods too.

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I don't want the govt to subsidize anything - to include that monument to govt subsidized 'defense' contractors they have built in Crystal City VA.

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I'm getting sick and tired of supporting deadbeats you won't pony the price for a McDonalds burger, but want Morton t-bone dinners.

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Me too! In fact, it should be a condition of govt employment that you have to live in the district that you work. It would vastly shorten my commute and take all of those other asshats off the road!

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You want to start busing kids all over the place to equal out racial numbers, be my guest.

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God no. I hate the idea of busing. I just think people should have a choice as to where they go to school. In fact, I would personally love to see an end to the yellow school bus entirely. Give parents vouchers and let them choose where they send their kids to school. Ending the districting rule would have the same net effect of issuing vouchers. And, it only requires SCOTUS ruling as opposed to going through the legislative sausage mill.

Bottom line, 'separate but equal' is already unconstitutional. It is only a matter of getting this particular case in front of the Court. The will be no less a game changer than Brown v Board of Ed.

People in this thread are seriously comparing property-tax subsidized public schools with segregation? :no:

That dog just don't hunt friends.

Local schools are paid for and run by locals. Non-locals need to do what needs to be done to improve their own schools instead of foisting their problems off on others. These problems usually don't involve money ironically. The problem is cultural. Ghettos are ghettos not because of their physical location but because of the people living in them, the same can be said for schools in ghettos.

If you feel your children aren't being properly educated, you need to pony up your own chips and send your kid to a private school or home school them, not CHEAT and STEAL from the productivity of others. You DO have a choice.

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Originally Posted by Armati

With any luck, this will will go to the SCOTUS.

Under 'separate but equal' geographical districting will be found unconstitutional and any school district will have to accept a student from another district. Oh fun!

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I believe Massachusetts already does this (after I grew up and got the hell out). I have heard from people back home that my high school (NMRS) is full of kid from Fitchburg and Lunenburg now... The money follows the kid.

Utah does something similar if I am not mistaken. My kid is technically a student in a school district in St George (hours a few hundred miles away). (It is an online public school based in a school district in St George and is open to any kid in Utah -- classes are at home through a provided online school). I know of people who send their kids to other than their normal area school though I don't know the details.

forced schooling in public schools is the problem... But that is another topic for another day.

(I am not railing on education -- just our Prussian attitude toward it to make good little slaves of our children to serve the state)