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Originally Posted by BrianS

Shit you have to be a true believer when the referee who called the game can admit to the media that he has nightmares about how bad his calls were years after the fact and you still believe it's sour grapes.

;)

I'm a fan of the game, but not so much when the refs have a big impact on the outcome so hopefully that doesn't happen this year... again. Just sayin.

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A referee admitting he made mistakes after the fact is a whole other animal than admitting he was...what were your words..."in the tank"?

That might be sour grapes.

As for bad calls, they happen and the Steelers have been victim to them as much as any other team, including touchdowns being called back, not to mention the grandaddy of all bad calls...the infamous coin flip.

In the end they shake out in the wash. There is no conspiracy against your team.

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Originally Posted by BrianS

Shit you have to be a true believer when the referee who called the game can admit to the media that he has nightmares about how bad his calls were years after the fact and you still believe it's sour grapes.

;)

I'm a fan of the game, but not so much when the refs have a big impact on the outcome so hopefully that doesn't happen this year... again. Just sayin.

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You can always take pride in the fact you were the #1 seed out of the NFC that year... and that you beat the Saints this year. ;)

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Originally Posted by Gutshot John

Unless you're catering exclusively to the Pittsburgh crowd. The thing about the Burgh is that we tend to export our people all over the country, but they never forget their Steelers. I doubt the Steelers are broadly hated in Green Bay...yet. A Vikings bar in Green Bay would be horrible for business. Pittsburgh not so much.

That said there are Steelers bars in Cleveland, Baltimore, Boston, New York, Cincinnati...and on and on. Even in the places where most of the local populace hates us, you still find a niche of Steeler fans...and they always show up at games. You'll always see numerous Terrible Towels at Steeler Games no matter where they play.

Simply put, we have the best fans in the NFL universe. It's an irrefutable fact.

That said, all I can do is go by the website as a source. It might be flawed sure, but I provided the appropriate documentation. :)

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Is there an EAGLES bar in Pittsburgh? I need to know so if I have to go to Pittsburgh I need to have a place to drink.

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Originally Posted by jasonhgross

Is there an EAGLES bar in Pittsburgh? I need to know so if I have to go to Pittsburgh I need to have a place to drink.

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Not that I know of, but given the number of shithole dive bars in Pittsburgh, I bet there's a fair chance that there is one place where every Eagles fan in the tri-state area can congregate. :)

Bradshaw talks BigBen

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=f..._featuredvideo

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Originally Posted by Gutshot John

A referee admitting he made mistakes after the fact is a whole other animal than admitting he was...what were your words..."in the tank"?

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When the officiating in one game is entirely lopsided in favor of one team and effects the outcome of the game for whatever reason that fits the definition of in the tank. In the tank just means biased towards one side over another while in a purportedly neutral position. I didn't accuse them of taking money or anything.

Anyways, the point was I hope the Steelers don't win another undeserved Super Bowl ring based on bad calls.

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Originally Posted by BrianS

When the officiating in one game is entirely lopsided in favor of one team and effects the outcome of the game for whatever reason that fits the definition of in the tank. In the tank just means biased towards one side over another while in a purportedly neutral position. I didn't accuse them of taking money or anything.

Anyways, the point was I hope the Steelers don't win another undeserved Super Bowl ring based on bad calls.

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Yep...sour grapes. :haha: Funny how the only people that have accused the refs of being "in the tank" for Pittsburgh, were Seattle fans. While there might have been bad calls (they happen), they weren't all bad calls (and if I recall more than one went against the Steelers). At some point the Hawks had to take some responsibility for losing when you lose by almost 2 TDs.

The Refs didn't make Hasselbeck throw that interception at the goal line...or miss that field goal...or screw up their time management...or give the Steelers a 75 yard touchdown run...or any number of other times Seattle screwed up.

But hey blame the refs if you want. I fail to understand why you should hate the Steelers because of it.

Go Steelers. I'll be watching.

Seriously, can you imagine what would happen if Goodell took a needless potshot at Michael Vick? Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would shatter Usain Bolt’s 100-meter record in a dash to be the first person on ESPN to claim Goodell has a “slave-owner mentality.”

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/b...ls-game-020211

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Originally Posted by Gutshot John

Funny how the only people that have accused the refs of being "in the tank" for Pittsburgh, were Seattle fans.

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Actually a poll conducted by ESPN after the Super Bowl showed that 62% of fans thought officiating mistakes effected the outcome of Super Bowl XL. Given the legacies and demographics involved that would mean that even a bunch of people who were rooting for the Steelers knew the calls were bullshit.

Like I said previously, you have to be a real kool aid drinker to deny the facts in this case. Hopefully this super bowl outcome is determined by the players and not the officials.

From your description of the game it is clear you don't even know which calls are in question and what kind of point swing they resulted in.

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Originally Posted by Gutshot John

But hey blame the refs if you want. I fail to understand why you should hate the Steelers because of it.

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I don't hate the Steelers. I do hate the current challenge system and think the game needs to make greater use of the readily available technology that could be used to overturn bad calls that you end up seeing in almost every game.