Why do people find my beliefs so offensive?

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Originally Posted by Business_Casual

Gee, why can't gay people get married, it's such a puzzle! How can we be so mean! What could possibly go wrong with that!

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Well I believe that marriage should be a religious institution so if you can't find a church to marry you, you are shit out of luck. There shouldn't be any need for a government equivalent because all of the shit that marriage currently brings as far as the government is concerned shouldn't exist in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Business_Casual

Gee, why can't gay people get married, it's such a puzzle! How can we be so mean! What could possibly go wrong with that!

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What could go wrong?

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Originally Posted by RancidSumo

Well I believe that marriage should be a religious institution so if you can't find a church to marry you, you are shit out of luck. There shouldn't be any need for a government equivalent because all of the shit that marriage currently brings as far as the government is concerned shouldn't exist in the first place.

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Nice head fake, but it won't work. You've created a false choice between either no marriage or any type of marriage. Wrong.

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Originally Posted by TRIDENT82

What could go wrong?

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If you aren't sharp enough to figure out the point of marriage, I can't help you.

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The problem is that the saying "Live and let live" is easy to say or repeat, but very difficult to practice. I think it comes down to one word, judgemental. People can't hold back their personal opinions regarding others. Its hard to allow principles to trump ones emotional feelings.

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Originally Posted by Business_Casual

Nice head fake, but it won't work. You've created a false choice between either no marriage or any type of marriage. Wrong.

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Ok, care to explain why it won't work then?

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Originally Posted by Cagemonkey

The problem is that the saying "Live and let live" is easy to say or repeat, but very difficult to practice. I think it comes down to one word, judgemental. People can't hold back their personal opinions regarding others. Its hard to allow principles to trump ones emotional feelings.

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It isn't hard in practice at all. Hell, I am probably one of the most judgmental people you could ever meet but that doesn't mean I want to force all the idiots I see to do something else. They're stupidity doesn't affect me one way or another so they can go about their lives making stupid decisions all along the way and the only thing I will do about it is make sure not to count them as a friend and to stay away from them whenever possible.

It only becomes my problem when the government starts making ME pay for THEIR stupidity. That is why I don't approve of welfare programs.

Well, the most obvious one is demographics. Go ask the Soviets, er I mean Russians, how well their family policies with respect to the sanctity of marriage have worked out. Or go to China and see how their one child policy is about to detonate their society. The greatest indicator of financial and social stability is a man, a woman and children under one roof.

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Originally Posted by RancidSumo

It isn't hard in practice at all. Hell, I am probably one of the most judgmental people you could ever meet but that doesn't mean I want to force all the idiots I see to do something else. They're stupidity doesn't affect me one way or another so they can go about their lives making stupid decisions all along the way and the only thing I will do about it is make sure not to count them as a friend and to stay away from them whenever possible.

It only becomes my problem when the government starts making ME pay for THEIR stupidity. That is why I don't approve of welfare programs.

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Well your a better man than most. I try to live by that saying as a golden rule. I must admit it causes some internal moral conflict. You must be a pretty laid back dude.

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Originally Posted by stifled

Where's the party for the fiscally conservative and socially liberal (I'm not talking everyone-should-make-the-same liberal, I'm talking why-can't-gay-people-get-married liberal)? Every party that claims to be both seems to quickly move towards Republican or Democrat policies in short order.

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It should be the Constitution party but sadly it isn't. It's Libertarians more than any other but even then you have some with an agenda trying to run things. Doesn't help that the average person who calls themselves a Libertarian is nothing more than a stoner Democrat who wants legal weed.